The Sopranos Series - Re-Watch (Spoilers!!!)

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@threattonature

The book is great, it breaks down and reviews every episode, and interviews David Chase, plus a long segment on the ending.

I can't stop laughing watching the show, almost all of the lines are hilarious. I am deep in Season 6 now, and I just watched the scene where Phil goes on a crazy rant about Vito, and Tony has the funnest "what the fukk" expression.....

From Whitecaps (unpacking a Chinese food container) "motherfukking goddamn orange peel beef"

"Sit down and eat goddamnit"

The whole "varsity athlete" saga

"The level of bullshyt, bullshyt, bullshyt....Your call is important to us...if it's so fukking important just answer"

When he says Melfi doesn't believe him, that he didn't indulge in male rape in prison

The Joey Peeps tomstone

Paulie and that picture "A fukking lawn jockey"???

"That's no lawn jockey that's a general t"

Paulie hears the door, "who is it"

Tony: OPEN THIS DOOR!!

 

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"What are you judge Roy Bean"

When Carlo starts grandstanding about killing Vito

 

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@threattonature

The book is great, it breaks down and reviews every episode, and interviews David Chase, plus a long segment on the ending.

I can't stop laughing watching the show, almost all of the lines are hilarious. I am deep in the Season 6 now, and I just watched the scene where Phil goes on a crazy rant about Vito, and Tony has the funnest "what the fukk" expression.....

From Whitecaps (unpacking a Chinese food container) "motherfukking goddamn orange peel beef"

"Sit down and eat goddamnit"

The whole "varsity athlete" saga

"The level of bullshyt, bullshyt, bullshyt....Your call is important to us...if it's so fukking important just answer"

When he says Melfi doesn't believe him, that he didn't indulge in male rape in prison

The Joey Peeps tomstone

Paulie and that picture "A fukking lawn jockey"??

"That's no lawn jockey that's a general t"

Paulie hears the door, "who is it"

Tony: OPEN THIS DOOR!!

What does the book say about the ending????

Easily my favorite show of all time. JG was such an accomplished actor, it was the subtle things that cannot be taught like his facial expressions through every quote and every scene. All the great ones have a way of doing that. You'll see coordinators in a movie telling that to actors show certain facial emotions, but to have a TV series where an actor can do that is amazing. Anybody who has worked in the film scene knows what I'm talking about.

I loved everything about the show but how Tony found out that puzzy was a indeed a rat was not realistic to me. The food poisoning with the talking fish. I know it was a subconscious thing but tony had so much love for him that he became so niave and even committed a murder with him and almost went down.

Also the scene where tony whooped his ex gumat new boo with a belt was hilarious and sad at the same time. He really was in love with her. He showed more emotion for his side bytches than he ever displayed for his own wife. But she wasn't innocent, I LOVED how he called her out on her hypocritical BS. She despised him but LOVED the life he gave her but always tried to stand a moral high ground. I think I hated Carmella more than tony's senile mother...

 

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Im also rewatching the whole series starting from Season 1, forgot Amazon video has it, on season 2 so far, been so long that it all feels new to me

 

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The book essentially says what I have said for awhile, the ending can go either way, and that was deliberate, no matter what Chase says. For me, Tony didn't die in the diner, but Chase, 100% was implying that he did, yet, he also leaves it open. There is no definitive answer, but I firmly believe the best artistic interpretation is that Tony did not die, at least right then, and things went "on and on" for the Sopranos saga.

Oh, and I think Gandolfini's portrayal may be the single greatest performance of all time, in any medium, I think a minimum a case could be made.

 

[threattonature]

What does the book say about the ending????

Easily my favorite show of all time. JG was such an accomplished actor, it was the subtle things that cannot be taught like his facial expressions through every quote and every scene. All the great ones have a way of doing that. You'll see coordinators in a movie telling that to actors show certain facial emotions, but to have a TV series where an actor can do that is amazing. Anybody who has worked in the film scene knows what I'm talking about.

I loved everything about the show but how Tony found out that puzzy was a indeed a rat was not realistic to me. The food poisoning with the talking fish. I know it was a subconscious thing but tony had so much love for him that he became so niave and even committed a murder with him and almost went down.

Also the scene where tony whooped his ex gumat new boo with a belt was hilarious and sad at the same time. He really was in love with her. He showed more emotion for his side bytches than he ever displayed for his own wife. But she wasn't innocent, I LOVED how he called her out on her hypocritical BS. She despised him but LOVED the life he gave her but always tried to stand a moral high ground. I think I hated Carmella more than tony's senile mother...

IMO the way he described it made it seem like he delivered the last scene in a less obvious way than he originally planned for his death scene.

Spoiler

Previously, the show's creators have refrained from saying what really happened to Tony as viewers were quite literally, left in the dark.

The revelation came in a new book titled The Sopranos Sessions by entertainment journalists Alan Sepinwall and Matt Zoller Seitz.

Time reports that Chase was asked about the conclusion of the show in a discussion about the book and he admitted he planned the 'death scene' two years prior.

Sepinwall said to Chase: 'When you said there was an end point, you don’t mean Tony at Holsten’s, you just meant, "I think I have two more years" worth of stories left in me.'

Chase responded, 'Yes, I think I had that death scene around two years before the end. I remember talking with [writer/ executive producer] Mitch Burgess about it. But it wasn’t - it was slightly different.'

Chase said that the 'death scene' involved Tony's feud with New York mobster Johnny Sack, a prevalent theme in the show's fifth season that aired in 2004.

He said: 'Tony was going to get called to a meeting with Johnny Sack in Manhattan, and he was going to go back through the Lincoln Tunnel for this meeting.

'It was going to go black there and you never saw him again as he was heading back, the theory being that something bad happens to him at the meeting.

'But we didn’t do that.'

Seitz told Chase, 'You realize, of course, that you just referred to that as a death scene.'

After what the journalists described as a 'long pause,' Chase responded, 'F*** you guys.'

According to Uproxx, Chase told Sepinwall and Seitz he 'didn’t want to do a straight death scene,' and that the idea behind the scene at Holsten's was that 'he could have been whacked.'

Chase remained coy when Sepinwall and Seitz asked him directly if viewers would have been mistaken to believe Tony would have been killed in the scene, saying, 'I’m not going to answer that question.'

 

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IMO the way he described it made it seem like he delivered the last scene in a less obvious way than he originally planned for his death scene.

Spoiler

Previously, the show's creators have refrained from saying what really happened to Tony as viewers were quite literally, left in the dark.

The revelation came in a new book titled The Sopranos Sessions by entertainment journalists Alan Sepinwall and Matt Zoller Seitz.

Time reports that Chase was asked about the conclusion of the show in a discussion about the book and he admitted he planned the 'death scene' two years prior.

Sepinwall said to Chase: 'When you said there was an end point, you don’t mean Tony at Holsten’s, you just meant, "I think I have two more years" worth of stories left in me.'

Chase responded, 'Yes, I think I had that death scene around two years before the end. I remember talking with [writer/ executive producer] Mitch Burgess about it. But it wasn’t - it was slightly different.'

Chase said that the 'death scene' involved Tony's feud with New York mobster Johnny Sack, a prevalent theme in the show's fifth season that aired in 2004.

He said: 'Tony was going to get called to a meeting with Johnny Sack in Manhattan, and he was going to go back through the Lincoln Tunnel for this meeting.

'It was going to go black there and you never saw him again as he was heading back, the theory being that something bad happens to him at the meeting.

'But we didn’t do that.'

Seitz told Chase, 'You realize, of course, that you just referred to that as a death scene.'

After what the journalists described as a 'long pause,' Chase responded, 'F*** you guys.'

According to Uproxx, Chase told Sepinwall and Seitz he 'didn’t want to do a straight death scene,' and that the idea behind the scene at Holsten's was that 'he could have been whacked.'

Chase remained coy when Sepinwall and Seitz asked him directly if viewers would have been mistaken to believe Tony would have been killed in the scene, saying, 'I’m not going to answer that question.'

The actress who played Meadow said there were as an alternative, definite scene where it shows tony dies. But chase decided to scrap it and go with a more ambiguous scene. To me chase juelz with it BUT I think the reason he changed it was because there was heavy talk when the series ended that there would be a movie.

 

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I just think it's absurd to suggest that Chase wasn't been ambiguous intentionally with that scene....I also think not dying is just a much more powerful ending, than some borderline soap opera style killing.

 

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Luxury Lounge:

When Chris tried to get Kingsley to cut him in on the luxury lounge

When Kinsgely hugs Lauren Bacall, and says "ohhh I don't knowww" when she asks what he's doing there (meeting with Chris and Carmine)

Kingsley talking to his agent (about the Carmine meeting and why he was there)

Sleazy agent: Says some bullshyt

Kingsley "Oh...bollcocks Jay.....BOLLOCKS"

 

[Nero Christ]

The book essentially says what I have said for awhile, the ending can go either way, and that was deliberate, no matter what Chase says. For me, Tony didn't die in the diner, but Chase, 100% was implying that he did, yet, he also leaves it open. There is no definitive answer, but I firmly believe the best artistic interpretation is that Tony did not die, at least right then, and things went "on and on" for the Sopranos saga.

Oh, and I think Gandolfini's portrayal may be the single greatest performance of all time, in any medium, I think a minimum a case could be made.

I always felt like with the ending, it didn't really matter if Tony got killed right there, his days were numbered and it was pretty much over. All the people he could count on were dead, in jail, or flipped. The alphabet boys were getting ready to bring indictments, he had failed his family (Meadow getting with the son of a mobster, AJ indirectly working for a mobster, and Carmela much like when the show starts is just with Tony for what he can give to her and loves him even less). Then you also have NY possibly getting back at him for the Phil hit and no more therapy either.

 

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I think that's a little bleak.....life is like that for most everyone, wins and losses, setbacks and gains, whether you are in the mafia or just working 9-5 trying to buy a house and provide, just crime, organized esp. as the life/death aspect. Tony could dodge an indictment, or do a 5 and retain control, or he could get 25 and be done.

The point is, it goes on and on, like the song says.

 

[The G.O.D II]

Seriously, Paulie has to be the greatest character in TV history. I’m in season 6 right now. LMAO@him rambling while tony blood pressure/Heart rate is shooting through the roof and the machines are going crazy.

 

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Seriously, Paulie has to be the greatest character in TV history. I’m in season 6 right now. LMAO@him rambling while tony blood pressure/Heart rate is shooting through the roof and the machines are going crazy.

THE MACHINE GOES BULLshyt!

I know you told us

Spend some money forget about it....

Paulie: I'll NEVER forget (with the craziest look in his eyes)

 

[Figaro]

Seriously, Paulie has to be the greatest character in TV history. I’m in season 6 right now. LMAO@him rambling while tony blood pressure/Heart rate is shooting through the roof and the machines are going crazy.

When he killed that old lady because he got caught red handed trying to take her money

Suffocated her then took off with her life savings....

 

[STEVE]

I always felt like with the ending, it didn't really matter if Tony got killed right there, his days were numbered and it was pretty much over. All the people he could count on were dead, in jail, or flipped. The alphabet boys were getting ready to bring indictments, he had failed his family (Meadow getting with the son of a mobster, AJ indirectly working for a mobster, and Carmela much like when the show starts is just with Tony for what he can give to her and loves him even less). Then you also have NY possibly getting back at him for the Phil hit and no more therapy either.

Yeah, agreed. I think he dies but you make a good point. It's over for him no matter what.