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The Seminole Wars...No the Gullah Wars. A war oblivious to African Americans
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Sauanaffe Tustunnagee
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not really up on the Gullah wars but it's a damn shame most African Americans are oblivious to the Seminole Rebellions considering it's the closest thing we achieved to W as far as war against European oppression but i'm positive that's the reason cacs and safe negro lap dogs whom work in the anthropology field have done their best to hide this chapter in AA history
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Sauanaffe Tustunnagee
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Now why was John horse(1812?-1882) able to go into mexico?
(You have to connect the dots, these aren't isolated events)
Guerrero, Vicente (1783-1831)
Vicente Guerrero was born in the small village of Tixla in the state of Guerrero. His parents were Pedro Guerrero, an African Mexican and Guadalupe Saldana, an Indian. Vicente was of humble origins. In his youth he worked as a mule driver on his father’s mule run. His travels took him to different parts of Mexico where he heard of the ideas of independence. Through one of these trips he met rebel General Jose Maria Morelos y Pavon. In November 1810, Guerrero decided to join Morelos. Upon the assassination of Morelos by the Spaniards, Guerrero became Commander in Chief. In that position he made a deal with Spanish General Agustin de Iturbide.
Iturbide joined the independence movement and agreed with Guerrero on a series of measures known as “El plan de Iguala.” This plan gave civil rights to Indians but not to African Mexicans. Guerrero refused to sign the plan unless equal rights were also given to African Mexicans and mulattos. Clause 12 was then incorporated into the plan. It read: “All inhabitants . . . without distinction of their European, African or Indian origins are citizens . . . with full freedom to pursue their livelihoods according to their merits and virtues.”
Subsequently, Guerrero served in a three person “Junta” that governed the then independent Mexico from 1823-24, until the election that brought into power the first president of Mexico Guadalupe Victoria. Guerrero, as head of the “People’s Party,” called for public schools, land title reforms, and other programs of a liberal nature. Guerrero was elected the second president of Mexico in 1829. As president, Guerrero went on to champion the cause not only of the racially oppressed but also of the economically oppressed.
Guerrero formally abolished slavery on September 16, 1829. Shortly thereafter, he was betrayed by a group of reactionaries who drove him out of his house, captured and ultimately executed him. Guerrero’s political discourse was one of civil rights for all, but especially for African Mexicans. Mexicans with hearts full of pride call him the “greatest man of color.”
Sources:
Theodore G. Vincent, The Legacy of Vincente Guerrero: Mexico’s First Black Indian President (Gainesville: University Press of Florida, 2001); Lane Clark, “Guerrero Vicente,” Historical Text Archive. <Historical Text Archive: Electronic History Resources, online since 1990 >
When the general Manuel Gómez Pedraza won the election to succeed Guadalupe Victoria as president, Guerrero, with the aid of general Antonio López de Santa Anna and politician Lorenzo de Zavala,[2] staged a coup d'état and took the presidency on 1 April 1829.[3] The most notable achievement of Guerrero's short term as president was ordering an immediate abolition of slavery[4] and emancipation of all slaves. During Guerrero's presidency the Spanish tried to reconquer Mexico however the Spanish failed and were defeated at the Battle of Tampico.
Battle of Tampico
One year after the Battle of Mariel, there was a new attempt at reconquest by Spain, from Cuba, confirming the suspicions of the Mexican authorities. Spain appointed Gen. Isidro Barradas, who left the port with 3,586 soldiers with the name "Spearhead Division" and on July 5, went to Mexico. The fleet consisted of a flagship, called the Sovereign, two frigates, two gunships and 15 transport ships, each commanded by Admiral Laborde.
On July 26, 1829 the fleet arrived in Cabo Rojo, near Tampico (State of Tamaulipas), and from there began its operations on 27 trying to land 750 troops and 25 boats. The expedition began their advance towards Tampico while the boats were moored at the Pánuco River. The Battle of Pueblo Viejo, which developed between 10 and September 11, 1829 marked the end of the Spanish conquest attempts in Mexico. General Isidro Barradas signed the capitulation of Pueblo Viejo, in the presence of generals Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna, Manuel Mier y Teran and Felipe de la Garza.[10]
Finally On December 28, 1836, Spain recognized the independence of Mexico under the treaty Santa Maria-Calatrava, signed in Madrid by the Mexican Commissioner Miguel Santa Maria and the Spanish state minister Jose Maria Calatrava.[11][12] Mexico was the first former colony whose independence was recognized by Spain; the second was Ecuador on February 16, 1840.
After his death, Mexicans loyal to Guerrero revolted, driving Bustamante from his presidency and forcing him to flee for his life. Picaluga, a former friend of Guerrero, who conspired with Bustamante to capture Guerrero, was executed.
Honors were conferred on surviving members of Guerrero's family, and a pension was paid to his widow. In 1842, Vicente Guerrero's body was returned to Mexico City and interred there.
while i approve of this thread
@ using an Skip Toby Gates series as a reference point
while i approve of this thread
Then do you have any alternative sources to Skip Gates?
Sauanaffe Tustunnagee
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well off the top of my head, Yosef Ben-Jochannan,Ivan Gladstone Van Sertimam and among many others Cheikh Anta Diop are all much more reputable sources on black history than Toby Gates...infact from where i stand even random youtube hoteps have more credibility than that fakkit cause aleast they aren't tools of Eurocentrics
well off the top of my head, Yosef Ben-Jochannan,Ivan Gladstone Van Sertimam and among many others Cheikh Anta Diop are all much more reputable sources on black history than Toby Gates...infact from where i stand even random youtube hoteps have more credibility than that fakkit cause aleast they aren't tools of Eurocentrics
The point is do any of those guys know anything about Vicente Guerrero? The reason I posted that Skip Gates video, because that was really one of the few sources I could find on Guerrero.
Sauanaffe Tustunnagee
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i have no idea....it's just that even when Toby Gates is a new black fakkit whom annoys me
even when he pretends to do positive unbiased stories on black history there is always a twist mixed in to push his usual agenda
@SharinganBoy if you're interested in diasporan history then you should start here. A lot of good and VALUABLE shyt posted in this thread. And primary sources at that.
Black Haven
We will find another road to glory!!!
I'm kinda already familiar with the Gullah and Seminole wars but, I guess it won't hurt to read a little more information on them.
Black Haven
We will find another road to glory!!!
no but I'm going to check it out as soon as I'm done reading this thread
Black Haven
We will find another road to glory!!!
History confirms this because, they're many bahamians who say they sound exactly like the Gullah geechie. This is a underrated post.
This whole thread is underrated. This is what I am talking about with the shyt some of us don't know about when it comes to AA history.
Black Haven
We will find another road to glory!!!
Hell can you blame us though? Most of the black history we were taught in school is either civil rights or how we were only slaves
This is different tho.Hell can you blame us though? Most of the black history we were taught in school is either civil rights or how we were only slaves