The Russia - Ukraine Conflict

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I'm starting to lean towards if it was gonna happen they would have done it by now.


Yeah I'm thinking ain't sh1t gon happen either, but on the other hand Russia has all those troops on Ukraine's border so now what, is Putin going to call them back ?

If Russia does invade Ukraine what do yall think the response would be, specifically what do yall think America's response will be ??
 

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US false flag 100x more likely than Russia doing anything



You can always read between the lines based on the information coming out of Washington vs how calm France and Germany are.

They have their plans and are executing it. Every fake intelligence prediction they make is basically how they expect Putin to react. But the guy is always a step ahead.

Russia military is up there in terms of tech and modernisation (I know some useful idiots on this forum think consumer electronics equates military tech) and SVR is one of the most sophisticated there is. But somehow the US that didn’t have any intelligence on the Iranians bombing of a US military base in Iraq before it happened somehow knows every Russian move. They didn’t even have any intelligence that Russia would annex Crimea until it happened, lol.

This script has been played before in Georgia.
 

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Yeah, Russia annexing Crimea region a few years back was such a false flag…
:comeon:

I don’t think you know what a false flag is.

The annexation of Crimea wasn’t a false flag. It’s an annexation and nothing was false about it.
 
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Yeah I'm thinking ain't sh1t gon happen either, but on the other hand Russia has all those troops on Ukraine's border so now what, is Putin going to call them back ?

If Russia does invade Ukraine what do yall think the response would be, specifically what do yall think America's response will be ??


Just wanna know what yall think ?
 

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I don’t think you know what a false flag is.

The annexation of Crimea wasn’t a false flag. It’s an annexation and nothing was false about it.
Huh?
You’re saying that US is false flagging shyt, I’m saying no…Russia is actually committing these acts of aggression. The largest of which was the Crimea annexation. There is no need to false flag anything when Russia is overtly committing acts of aggression.
 

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Our company believes it can happen and they are in the business of knowing this stuff.

Me personally, I think Putin is bluffing like a mfer
Nah all the buildup just to back down?

He has atleast half of his standing army along the border ..even left his border with China open.

He'd look weak and like a joke if he backed down now
..and I'm told Russians need their leader to have a strongman image or they won't fall.in line.
 

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You can always read between the lines based on the information coming out of Washington vs how calm France and Germany are.

They have their plans and are executing it. Every fake intelligence prediction they make is basically how they expect Putin to react. But the guy is always a step ahead.

Russia military is up there in terms of tech and modernisation (I know some useful idiots on this forum think consumer electronics equates military tech) and SVR is one of the most sophisticated there is. But somehow the US that didn’t have any intelligence on the Iranians bombing of a US military base in Iraq before it happened somehow knows every Russian move. They didn’t even have any intelligence that Russia would annex Crimea until it happened, lol.

This script has been played before in Georgia.
shyt it was Russian tech I believe that hacked US lines and gathered that USA wouldn't use nukes to defend Korea..which is why Russia decided to go ahead and help plan the invasion with China during Korean War.
 

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So at the end of the day can somebody tell me why this matters to us?(black ppl)

The surprising, under-told of how Ukraine split apart, and the background to the civil war that has roiled the country since 2014. It's a surprising story, one that you don't often hear a lot: the story of Ukraine's sclerosis, how America ended up in bed with Ukraine's neo-Nazis, and the internal tensions that drove the country apart. Hadiya Afzal explains.

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Thank you for watching! Our intention with this video, like much of our work, was to bring to light an issue which no other outlets will cover. This video covers a very small slice of a much broader conflict. As we state in the video: it is Russian propaganda that Ukraine is "governed by Nazis." This video does not claim to explain the entirety of the present conflict, but merely how the American government ended up supporting people that most Americans would despise, without their knowledge or consent. That's a repeated pattern in American foreign policy. We'll do more videos about the Russian role in Ukraine in the future as well. For a more detailed discussion, see this video by John Mearsheimer: . This summary by AdamSomething is also excellent: .
 

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You’re saying that US is false flagging shyt, I’m saying no…Russia is actually committing these acts of aggression. The largest of which was the Crimea annexation. There is no need to false flag anything when Russia is overtly committing acts of aggression.

But what kicked off the crisis in Ukraine now was a US false flag against a pro-Russian government. And that created the pretext for CIA-sponsored protests (like the fake Arab Spring) - which ended up overthrowing a democratically elected President - for a US puppet.

Also, the aggression is on both sides. Russia has a right to protect ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine (they want either their own country or self-governance) - the home of the elected president that was overthrown - from aggression by the US puppets in Kiev from western Ukraine. And Ukraine has a right to protect its territorial integrity. So, the only solution is compromise which they already have with the Minsk Agreement. However, the US is the elephant in room disrupting things because it has its eyes on other things and it’s the hand that’s forcing Kiev not to abide by the agreement.

Crimea annexation wasn’t a false flag. It was a direct Russian military move once the pro-Russian government in Kiev was overthrown - to protect its interests. A US puppet in Kiev with US navy in Crimea would’ve crippled Russia militarily and economically. That’s Russia’s access to the Black Sea via Sea of Azov and it would mean US navy on Russia’s borders. All the just need to do is block Kerch Strait and half of Russia’s Black Sea fleet would become paralysed.

So, it wasn’t even an act of aggression as well. Putin was just one step ahead of those in Washington and acted accordingly to protect Russia’s geopolitical interests. What’s going on in Ukraine isn’t as simplistic as some of you think - it’s a very complicated issue that would’ve a big effect on the whole of Europe. And if cooler heads don’t prevail - it can become a global thing.
 

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Yeah, Russia annexing Crimea region a few years back was such a false flag…
:comeon:

Annexing? Crimea was independent since 1991. They voted to join Russia after the nationalist gov The US installed in 2014 pledged to ethnic 'cleanse' Russians from Ukraine. That situation like this one.....The same kind as every war the US starts: complete fabrications. It's like people don't remember the past 30 years at all. Every single conflict the US was engaged in was based on a lie.
 

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shyt it was Russian tech I believe that hacked US lines and gathered that USA wouldn't use nukes to defend Korea..which is why Russia decided to go ahead and help plan the invasion with China during Korean War.

People underestimate Russians because they don’t export consumer electronics, video games and create anime like Japan, lol.

When it comes to military and space tech - Russia might arguably be the most advanced country on the planet. And it’s evident in all of things.

You need to see their school syllabus to understand why they’re that advanced. It’s not even just them - it’s most of the countries on the eastern bloc - all the way to China. Kids in the west won’t be able to pass their exams.

Russia has a new Electronic Warfare Systems (EWS) that they have been embarrassing US and NATO with in Syria. That shyt is disrupting GPS and confusing drones, pilots and sailors. And US/NATO don’t have answers for it.
 
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