The Russia - Ukraine Conflict

David_TheMan

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Everyone can see you defending Hitler right there. :russ:

After all these years, why do you still claim your BS was "facts" when your only source was a random White German talking 50 years after the fact and Jesse's own family said it was full of shyt? NO photographs, NO news stories, NO other witnesses....Jesse supposedly carried this photo in his wallet for the rest of his life but this random-ass German dude is the only one who he ever showed it to?

Why do you automatically believe what White people tell you whenever it helps you defend Hitler, Confederates, Ron Paul, Trump, etc.? Why have you posted the random lies of straight racists on here in order to attack Obama, but then act so distrustful when anyone says anything against Putin?






No one else was talking about any of those random people in that comment, we were talking about Mack Robinson and Jesse Owens and then YOU derailed the thread to start BSing with Hitler defense. No one else was bringing up other White people or USA government or any of that shyt, you just brought it in because you were getting torn apart from your Hitler caping.
My posts speak for themselves, the fact that you literally ignore the point to argue things I never say, speaks volumes.
Now keep crying, I'm gonna keep posting truths that your c00n ass can't handle. :smile:
 

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This is the real issue, your white savior class gets no praise and worship for me, not different than the shyt I said about the confederates.

How the fukk does defending Confederates have anything to do with a "White savior class" narrative?


Factually the majority of the south werent slaveholders.
68% of households didn't own slaves.
32% is an extremely small percentage.
African American Involvement in the Confederate Army | Ford's Theatre

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32% is really just the households.
If you look at it by population it was less than 10% of the total population in the south that even owned slaves.

Either way the whole mythbusting aspect is ruined when they can't refute the fact that the majority of the south did not own slaves, and try to talk about the attitude of white supremacy of the south in its place.

32% of households doesn't refute the fact that a majority of the south didn't own slaves by the way.
How did Lincoln get shot for slavery when he was shot after the war?
He was shot because he was a crooked politician hated by northerns and southerners.
Like I said Lincoln wasn't killed because of black citizenship. 13th and 15th addressed those questions.
At his death Lincoln was actually one of the most hated presidents in US history.
Evidence for The Unpopular Mr. Lincoln
How Lincoln was hated!
I'm sorry about the links I posted about how much they hated him during his life, but I have a book The Real Lincoln by Tom DiLorenzo [rhakim note - this is a well-known Confederate sympathizer who belongs to neo-Confederate groups] that goes more into the actual goings on at the time regarding the hate that Lincoln had even post death. Such as US military sentencing members who spoke out about how much they hated him to death and etc.
I don't care who Tom is associated with.
If I said I was supporting a new confederacy, if I said I admired the confederates, you might have a point, but you don't.
You are right, I got into a convo about Dilorenzo at another site, when I didn't know.
Yeah looking back nothing to apologize for in our conversation on this site.
Thanks for that, no reason for me to type that at all here.
Yep I apologized for the only thing I needed to, and then had info that supported what I said, so think this alone shows that you lied when you claimed my links refuted what I said, they didn't.
And again thanks for reminding me our convo was not the one I was thinking about, I had no reason to apologize about DiLorenzo in my convo with you.
raising a confederate flag can't directly be tied to being a white supermacy or racist group.
Department is going to get sued and this woman is about to get paid.
Can't penalize people for political speech.
No it isn't anything close to treason.
The US is not at war with the confederacy it won.
As a black man, this hate for the confederate flag is absurd to me
For a black man there isn't any real difference between the confederate flag or the us flag if you want to be real
I dont believe in the lost cause, even though I do believe the civil war had nothing to do with fighting against slavery.
This is purely her having a confederate flag in her yard and being fired by her local government agency, and they are going to have very real 1st amendment problems upholding the firing.
Article I read said her record is full of commendations.

Why did you keep trying to minimize how many Confederates owned slaves?

Why did you keep trying to minimize how racist Confederate flag fliers are?

Why did you keep falsely claiming the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery?

Why did you keep falsely claiming that Lincoln was shot because he was a hated, crooked politician?

Why did you keep trying to defend a racist White cop and falsely claim she had every right to fly a Confederate flag?

Why did you big-up the racist cop's record and try to portray her as a good cop?

Why did you admit getting your history narratives from Neo-Confederate historians and claiming you "didn't care" what kind of racists they were associated with?
 

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How the fukk does defending Confederates have anything to do with a "White savior class" narrative?























Why did you keep trying to minimize how many Confederates owned slaves?

Why did you keep trying to minimize how racist Confederate flag fliers are?

Why did you keep falsely claiming the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery?

Why did you keep falsely claiming that Lincoln was shot because he was a hated, crooked politician?

Why did you keep trying to defend a racist White cop and falsely claim she had every right to fly a Confederate flag?

Why did you big-up the racist cop's record and try to portray her as a good cop?

Why did you admit getting your history narratives from Neo-Confederate historians and claiming you "didn't care" what kind of racists they were associated with?

None of the posts you cite have me defending the confederacy or white supremacy.
In every thread though, I simply hammer home the fact that the union and the confederacy are equally racist and that Abe lincoln was a racist piece of shyt who wasn't loved by the nation when he was killed.

So you can post how ever much yoou like but the fact remains the same. You are made because your favorite brand of whites get no love from me.
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None of the posts you cite have me defending the confederacy or white supremacy.
In every thread though, I simply hammer home the fact that the union and the confederacy are equally racist and that Abe lincoln was a racist piece of shyt who wasn't loved by the nation when he was killed.

We already argued that shyt and you got exposed. Your only backing for those claims were bullshyt from your neo-Confederate historian book and widespread disgruntlement with Lincoln DURING the war because White Northerners thought it had gone on too long and didn't want to keep losing hundreds of thousands of White lives to help Black folk. You looked fukking stupid defending his killers and claiming they didn't kill him out of anti-Black motives when they literally said DURING THE TRIAL that they wanted to kill Lincoln cause they thought he'd give Black men the vote.

From the time Lincoln was first elected with just 37% of the vote he wasn't supported by the majority because he was seen as too radically pro-Black for his time, he explicitly said that slavery was wrong, that he would prevent its spread, and that he hoped it would eventually disappear forever and most Americans weren't on that wave yet. He was racist in terms of underestimating Black folk but he wasn't even 1/10th as racist as the vast majority of White folk of his day.

At the time of his death, how many Black folk actually living in America do you think would be fukking stupid enough to believe your claim that the Confederacy and Lincoln were "equally racist"? Do you honestly believe that Black people at the time, North or South, believed that bullshyt?

And how does any of your neoConfederate Lincoln hatred justify you supporting Confederates today, who are clearly flying the flag out of anti-Black prejudice?

And why is it wrong for me to say that Lincoln was better than the other White people around at the time, but it's okay for you to big-up current racists like Ron Paul and Lew Rockwell just because they agree with your political views?
 
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