The Russia - Ukraine Conflict

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I'm a bit out of the loop but this Russia shyt seems like a bit too random. Like it's a distraction of some sort. Putin had all this time to let his nuts hang and all out invade Ukraine since 2014, why now? Especially with Trump out of office. Anyone withe knowledge, share some facts with me.
It’s not random at all. Putin been pushing this agenda since Obama was in office
 

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US is done. money slipping with inflation, covid doing donuts in the parking lot, and no one respects us in world community :francis:

crazy politicians like Blinken & Sullivan looking to drag us into any fight just to prove we still got it :flabbynsick:
 

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I knew about the annexation. I was thinking why now? They were bold for the past seven years. You even had a Russian-affiliated US president.

If he woulda did it while DT was in there, it would've blown up the spot. Now it's, why not?
 
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Most Americans don’t know shyt about domestic politics let alone know a iota about how foreign politics effect them.




Yeah, sometimes I wish the US would make countries like China and Russia lean back, but that would lead to another Cuban Missile type crisis, where everybody has their fingers hovering over the nuke button, and who really wants that?

Truth of the matter is, nothing that Russia does in Ukraine, or that China does in Hong Kong, for instance, affects the average American over here.

Those countries are taking control of their respective regions, much like the United States once did and still does.

Everybody wants a piece of global supremacy and Russia and China see situations as the above as their way for them to get their piece of the pie.

Regular average Americans who are angry about it, are only angry because they're used to us being the world cop for as long as we can remember, and we feel that it somehow hurts us for those countries to do what they're doing.

But like I said, that's just pride and ego (on the average Americans' part). Nothing Russia does in Ukraine or that China does in Hong Kong is gonna affect the average American directly.

Now.... there's a difference when it comes to the concerns of the White House and the concerns of average Americans. The White House understands the need for continued influence for whatever reason (profit that the US government is able to get overseas, influence, and sphere of power, and also national defense). So of course yes, Biden is going to warn Russia to leave Ukraine alone.

But the United States is not about to go to war because Russia invaded Ukraine, much like the US did not go to war when Russia annexed Crimea.

It's on Ukraine to hold their own nuts. We're doing our part, sending them aid and weapons. They need to man up, get to their borders and defend themselves.

Put up a good fight, make it too costly for Russia to stay, and they'll leave, just like Afghanistan made it too costly for the US to stay there and we left (20 years later tho :skip: but still).

Also, by Ukraine putting up a good fight, that would rally the world to their cause. Don't lie down. Fight them fools, and then broadcast to the world the HUMAN cost of Russia's invasion into your country.

If that were to happen, not only would the US be forced to get involved, but other countries would too. Geopolitics (politics altogether) is a game, and you have to know how to play it. It requires cunning, ruthlessness and knowing how to gain the moral high ground when you're a nation that's in the position that Ukraine is in.

Right now, Putin is trying to play the game of moving his troops close to Ukraine but when we look at him, he's looking up in the air whistling, saying "I don't know what you're talking about. I only moved my troops there because I keep hearing that the US is moving their troops here."

Which is why Biden came out forcefully several times in the last week, to say point blank, "We are NOT going to fight Russia for Ukraine."

This is important because it effectively removes Putin's false high ground, and shows that he's the aggressor no matter what he says, because Biden said outright, in plain words, that he is not planning to fight Russia for Ukraine.

So yeah, he can invade, but the entire world will be against him, and that will hurt Russia's bottomline with the US squeezing them with sanctions and then most of mainland Europe joining in to sanction him too.

That's the risk right there. Now he has to decide if the risk of Russia's economy taking a severe plunge in 2022 with COVID gripping his country just like it's gripping ours, and with his stock market falling just like ours (nearly all stock markets are dependent on what happens in the US), and I'm sure the global supply chain issues are affecting Russia just like it's affecting us...

Now he has to decide with those crises happening simultaneously, whether or not his dream of "restoring Great Mother Russia" is worth the cost.

And that's what the whole world is waiting to see. It's his move now.
 

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I sure hope so. I read that Biden is thinking about sending around 8500 troops over. Let’s see what’s it’s like when you’re not jumping on Arabs with AK-47’s who don’t have any air support out there in desert, but an army that can look you in the eye. When white boys are killing other white boys by the thousands now. Let’s see if the Jocko Wilink’s and other tough white boys are ready to go to Europe and play the navy seal.
 
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