The Russia - Ukraine Conflict

[The Prince of All Saiyans]

Ukraine had their chest puffed out cause of NATO

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

The Ukraine isn't a Nato member. Article 5 only guarantees they act if a member is attacked. Poland is on Russia radar, and they are a NATO member. If they attack Poland its on.

Trump actions in fact only gave credence to the idea he worked to support NATO's dissolution or hobbling it in retrospect. It's fair to ask other countries to sacrifice more to it. But, there was talk that he also wanted to pull out completely which from Russia perspective, if you can get the strongest military in the world to withdraw from that alliance, that helps them immensely in their expansionist plans.

I never said they were a member. I said member nations acted like they wouod do more than they did.

Trump threatened to pull out if the other nations didn't step up. That threat was a long time coming. Clinton should have issued it 30 years ago.

 

[banner34]

Putin doing this now because he knows the current admin is soft

 

[Jekyll]

@Jekyll explain this one to me.

It’s exactly what I said in my post. With Ukraine Putin will now be bordered with NATO who will add more members. If he wants this war that he says he does it will be time to prove it.

 

[SwizzLake]

Double standards

 

[u mad son?]

Human Race may need a Horizon Zero Dawn cleanse.....

@Gizmo_Duck
@Khalil's_Black_Excellence
@ItWasWritten
@Diondon
@Methodical

Lol was literally just playing this game

I think I'd rather fight a giant metal snake than putin right now.

 

[JT-Money]

The US has no military obligation to protect a non NATO ally, what are you talking about. Same dudes crying about Biden starting a war are…laughing that he won’t start a war. Lmao

 

[Jekyll]

I never said they were a member. I said member nations acted like they wouod do more than they did.

Trump threatened to pull out if the other nations didn't step up. That threat was a long time coming. Clinton should have issued it 30 years ago.

Trump is a fukking stooge that let Putin have Crimea with zero punishment for years and even tried to lift sanctions on Russia. He’s still sucking Putin’s dikk to this day. fukk anybody trying to hype these lame ass cucks trying to play bad cause he’s taking a country the size of Texas on his border. Putin will end like Hitler. By his own gun when the walls cave in too close.

 

[Max.]

 

[Dr. Acula]

Damn, what did the cancer patients do?

 

[cobra]

Damn, what did the cancer patients do?

Bombing hospitals is what Russians do to reduce morale

they did this is Syria too

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

Putin thinking he's looking like this:

But really he's looking like this:

What it worth to take a small country to gain nothing but failure in return? Its like robbing a homeless person when you are doing bad yourself. Now with the sanctions, the whole world looking at you like the bully, and so forth, it's safe to say that dude has nothing to lose and nothing to gain

Now dude popping off at Sweden and Finland. Dude really treating this shyt like Civ 5

 

[BeachBum Unreal]

 

[AyBrehHam Linkin]

I'm not saying that was the ONLY reason. The Ukraine has been under Russian control for much of it's history anyway. But please do not underestimate the significance of the NATO issue. Russia is not going to let their opps put nukes on their border. And we wouldn't either.

Before Eastern Ukraine was invaded, they didn't want to join NATO and favoured neutrality lmfao. Putin damn near brought this on himself.

Now Sweden AND Finland want to join NATO, lmfao bro is gonna win Ukraine only to lose the entire Baltic damn near. Putin a idiot.

 

[voltronblack]

NATO nations gassed up Ukraine and acted like they would have thier back. Now they just sit there while they get Deebo'd.

They also have the power to economically cripple Russia, but like Germany, have divided loyalties.

what you just said kind of remind me of what when down with between georgia and russia.
Russo-Georgian War - Wikipedia

Tensions between Georgia and Russia began escalating in April 2008.[95][96] A bomb explosion on 1 August 2008 targeted a car transporting Georgian peacekeepers. South Ossetians were responsible for instigating this incident, which marked the opening of hostilities and injured five Georgian servicemen. In response,[97] several South Ossetian militiamen were hit.[98] South Ossetian separatists began shelling Georgian villages on 1 August. These artillery attacks immediately caused Georgian servicemen to return fire periodically.[95][98][99][100][101]

On 7 August 2008, Georgian president Mikheil Saakashvili announced a unilateral ceasefire and called for peace talks.[102] However, escalating assaults against Georgian villages (located in the South Ossetian conflict zone) were soon matched with gunfire from Georgian troops,[103][104] who then proceeded to move in the direction of the capital of the self-proclaimed Republic of South Ossetia (Tskhinvali) on the night of 8 August, reaching its centre in the morning of 8 August.[105] According to Russian military expert Pavel Felgenhauer, the Ossetian provocation was aimed at triggering the Georgian response, which was needed as a pretext for premeditated Russian military invasion.[106] According to Georgian intelligence,[107] and several Russian media reports, parts of the regular (non-peacekeeping) Russian Army had already moved to South Ossetian territory through the Roki Tunnel before the Georgian military action.[108]

Russia accused Georgia of "aggression against South Ossetia",[109] and launched a large-scale land, air and sea invasion of Georgia with the pretext of "peace enforcement" operation on 8 August 2008.[100] Abkhaz forces opened a second front on 9 August by attacking the Kodori Gorge held by Georgia.[110] Tskhinvali was seized by the Russian military by 10 August.[111] Russian forces occupied the Georgian cities beyond disputed territories.[112]

During the conflict, there was a campaign of ethnic cleansing against Georgians in South Ossetia,[113] including destruction of Georgian settlements after the war had ended.[114] The war displaced 192,000 people,[115] and while many were able to return to their homes after the war, a year later around 30,000 ethnic Georgians remained displaced.[116] In an interview published in Kommersant, South Ossetian leader Eduard Kokoity said he would not allow Georgians to return.[117][118]

President of France Nicolas Sarkozy negotiated a ceasefire agreement on 12 August 2008.[119] Russia recognized Abkhazia and South Ossetia as separate republics on 26 August.[120] In response to Russia's recognition, the Georgian government severed diplomatic relations with Russia.[121] Russian forces left the buffer areas bordering Abkhazia and South Ossetia on 8 October, and the European Union Monitoring Mission in Georgia was dispatched to the buffer areas.[122] Since the war, Georgia has maintained that Abkhazia and South Ossetia are occupied Georgian territories.[123][124]