The Russia - Ukraine Conflict

[King Ming]

How will that help them and their people

Its fukken war over there breh! At some stage anything goes

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

Good grief, can't even fuel the fukking horse.

guess we crawling it in 2022...

I feel like companies are using the supply chain issues and this war as a reason to jack shyt up that don't need to.be jacked up because people will accept the markups

I'm curious about Taiwan future too...

they make AKAI products including the MPC LIVE in Taiwan ..as well as the micro chips for shyt

Spoiler

not worried...I just like using the smiley

 

[TELL ME YA CHEESIN FAM?]

This cac really did it

 

[Artfull Dodger]

Plus this is already taking a lifetime longer than Putin gambled on, he is burning his fukking resources right now. This midget bytch knows he is fukking cooked, hope they can [REDACT] him before he does anything dumb with the nukes

u could try separating emotions from the facts on the ground....

 

[Artfull Dodger]

Its fukken war over there breh! At some stage anything goes

but that would be a self inflicted blow. Blowing up Chernobil is not a viable option

 

[Disclosure]

“Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.” ― Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War

 

[invalid]

Good to know, but when it gets to the point that it is heading it's going to be hard to live off the grid out here. They are going to connect everybody and thing to the system. They will give incentives to people to turn people trying to live off grid into the authorities of the system. It's going to be a tough decision for people. They are going to have people looking crazy to their own families. It will take a person strong in faith and will to reject the delusional propaganda that will be put out into the world.

The people that are going to live off the grid are the wealthy and powerful. We saw this in real time during the pandemic. The elites escaping high congested cities for their remote and wealthy enclaves in Maine, the Upper Great Lakes, Islands like Martha’s Vineyard and Nantucket, where they can cut off complete access from the American public.

Many of the elites out west have already built underground bunkers in the desert and in mountains for apocalyptic scenarios like this.

Best believe the elites are going to go in hiding while the rest of the American public will have to scavenge.

 

[Chrishaune]

The people that are going to live off the grid are the wealthy and powerful. We saw this in real time during the pandemic. The elites escaping high congested cities for their remote and wealthy enclaves in Maine, the Upper Great Lakes, Islands like Martha’s Vineyard and Nantucket, where they can cut off complete access from the American public.

Many of the elites out west have already built underground bunkers in the desert and in mountains for apocalyptic scenarios like this.

Best believe the elites are going to go in hiding while the rest of the American public will have to scavenge.

Yeah, the elite already sold out to the system. They are the influencers.

I'm talking everyday Joe.

If you don't sell out they're going to try to make it tough for you to live. Aided by artificial intelligence tracking everybody. They are going to make people choose life or death. Live their way, or die.

 

[987654321]

this is true. but the political rhetoric from US & Nato countries made Ukraine think they got their back. Its why the president ddint heed
Putin's call to lay down n commit to not joining Nato. The west actually left him in the cold

thats not really the case. Read the NATO rules and charters. They can’t accept a new meme er state that is already occupied (Ukraine has had to small regions occupied since 2014. This would mean insta-war mobilization for all NATO member states to defend that occupied state.

What they did was right. Drop and continue to supply tons of weapons advanced enough to hurt Russia’s older equipment. They’re also deployed logistics personnel and equipment to surrounding friendly countries so that there will always be a logistics chain for more equipment. The rest is hurting Russia financially and socially in hopes that it’s own citizens will pressure Putin to take a step back in the future.

The next few weeks/months will be incredibly painful for the Russian government. Even I didn’t expect open mass protests in Moscow and St. Petersburg.

 

[StretfordRed]

Putin is a savage but BE CLEAR, the United States would do the same sh!t if they got word that Mexico or Canada was in talks to possibly become an ally of Russia. I think USA would try much harder to handle it diplomatically, and only use force as a last resort, but you better believe if that didn't work our military is running up in there. Essentially the same ideology as what was behind the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Yep. I still think there should have been more diplomacy, but the fact is NATO was created to deter from German and Soviet attacks and this was solidified when US joined in the 40's.

But Ukraine didn't need to be an official member. There are many other states such as Turkey and Australia who have partnerships with NATO, but aren't official members. Maybe to avoid situation like this, this is what NATO leaders should have wanted, but the Ukrainian PM wanted 110% all in

 

[mykey]

this is true. but the political rhetoric from US & Nato countries made Ukraine think they got their back. Its why the president ddint heed
Putin's call to lay down n commit to not joining Nato. The west actually left him in the cold

That is what happens to every Western / NATO ally e.g.

1. Former president Saakashvili of Georgia- cooling his heels in prison.

2. Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido-neutralised.

3. Former Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko-in prison.

4. Hong Kong protest leader Joshua Wong-in prison.

5. Former Bolivian president Jeanine Áñez-in prison.

etc

At some point, they gotta stop and ask themselves; is this shyt is worth it?

 

[Disclosure]

give this man all the jet fuel and R-27 missiles he needs

 

[Disclosure]

Yep. I still think there should have been more diplomacy, but the fact is NATO was created to deter from German and Soviet attacks and this was solidified when US joined in the 40's.

But Ukraine didn't need to be an official member. There are many other states such as Turkey and Australia who have partnerships with NATO, but aren't official members. Maybe to avoid situation like this, this is what NATO leaders should have wanted, but the Ukrainian PM wanted 110% all in

Turkey is a NATO member, Im pretty sure they have the second largest military of all NATO members after the United States

 

[StretfordRed]

Will be fukked up for the Russians if Ukraine blows up Chernobyl

Its fukken war over there breh! At some stage anything goes

I mean literally, for a second just think about WHY they'd even do this .

War just doesn't mean you do random shyt for giggles. There has to be a tactical advantage to it and blowing up a damn nuclear reactor with your soldiers and country a few hundred KMs away makes zero sense

 

[StretfordRed]

give this man all the jet fuel and R-27 missiles he needs

This is why social media in these times of war is terrible. Whole bunch of fake news and people clamouring to post the latest info...