The Russia - Ukraine Conflict

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how many russian spies do you think are in the west

I was wondering the same thing. This isn't the Middle East or Asia. This will hit cacs a lil bit different when they realize the enemy looks just like them.

Bob from HR or Stan the technician really out here collecting Intel

MFs ain't gonna know who to trust

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

Russian economy in shambles with these sanctions
I was looking for cutting them off from SWIFT but this is hurting all the money men in Russia

That's how you handle Putin. Hurt the money boys with juice and they'll send some Russian mob hittas to end this shyt. Actually a genius plan. Putin is too stubborn so you gotta get everything around him.

 

[#1 pick]

For and foremost, 4cac is a white supremacist splinter cell. That said, he's right.

 

[Jefferson Jackson]

Biden is struggling through this speech.

nikka that's the case with ALL his speeches

 

[calixprynce]

and none of them would be on the front lines if Biden did.

I'd tell all of em to sign up and fight if they that gung ho on going to war.

and you'd shut up 90% of USA ... mfs talkin that hot shyt while workin from home

 

[Bonk]

I agree with you even though I'll be more nuanced. A lot of european countries don't mind being under american leadership. A large chunk of these countries elites are "americanized". Sometimes even the population. American soft power ain't no joke. Also, american networks in those countries should not be underestimated.

It's always interesting, for instance, to see how DW, the public german television for the world, is pro-US.

But it's true that a country like Germany, given its history, won't like to live under the american umbrella forever. But at the same time, you saw how Merkel kept saying that Germany's defense will remain in Nato.

It's a complex issue. We will see.

Being bribed puppets =/= Americanised. A lot of these Eastern Europeans are just being wooed by a pipe-dream of prosperity/affluence and migration while their leaders are bribed. However, how many of these countries have become prosperous after joining EU and NATO? Those countries are still shytholes and interestingly, China is the one subsidising them whilst building their infrastructures.

German isn’t like Eastern European countries - it’s the richest country in Europe by a mile. And the standard of living in Germany for the average German is better than that of the average American and/or Brit. So, they can’t sway them with affluence/prosperity and the only way to keep them in-line is via continuous occupation. Hence the German will always maintain their stance beneath the pro-US layer.

American soft power is dwindling and European identity is at an all time high. And right now, economic influence is the most effective tool soft power due to how the world is. But China has that on lock as the new kid on the block with the deepest pocket. So, these countries can look East rather than look West. Welcome to a bi-polar world.

Let me expand and add something about the UK that most don’t know. The UK also has a sizeable pro-Russia population that doesn’t like the US’ excessiveness. A lot of them are mostly leftist radicals like the former Labour Party Leader (Jeremy Corbyn) and a lot of people in his cabinet, especially Seumas Milne (I’m still waiting for his Op-Ed on The Guardian about Ukraine vs Russia).

The only reason why these people don’t go mainstream too much with their views is because of the Anglo-American connection on one side and the role Soviet Union played in burying the British empire during the Suez Canal crisis on the other. I’m sure you know that the UK regained all its colonies after WW2 and the empire was still alive. However, it was strained financially hence it let go of the Indian subcontinent - albeit with indirect rule - and kept its other colonies (including those in Africa and West Indies). The empire finally collapsed after the Suez Canal crisis, with the UK giving out independence to any country up for it and Soviet Union played a big role in that. So, from a British nationalism POV - the UK and Russia shouldn’t mix.

 

[MikelArteta]

I was wondering the same thing. This isn't the Middle East or Asia. This will hit cacs a lil bit different when they realize the enemy looks just like them.

Bob from HR or Stan the technician really out here collecting Intel

MFs ain't gonna know who to trust

Just imagine how good being a spy is paying now?

the price dun went up

 

[Jefferson Jackson]

 

[mykey]

That's how you handle Putin. Hurt the money boys with juice and they'll send some Russian mob hittas to end this shyt. Actually a genius plan. Putin is too stubborn so you gotta get everything around him.

It's all bullshyt theatre for the US Public, so Biden gets to say he did "something".

Russia divested from the US Dollar long time ago and is stacking gold like crazy.

Russia, China and EU are pushing towards de-dollarization: Will India follow?

I really feel for the Germans, they better stock up on extra sweaters.

 

[JayGatsby]

LOL

like it or not BLM was a few summers ago, Ukraine lives is the new " hot album" for 2022

 

[Jekyll]

War has changed.

 

[Jean Jacket]

Well, they just took over Chernobyl

They bout to create a real life Yuri in this bytch.

 

[DrexlersFade]

 

[#1 pick]

Trump was working for team white supremacy. Even though the tptb are racist af, they hate white supremacy

 

[Drew Wonder]

Good breakdown from a reddit poster

Ukraine has been flirting with NATO membership and has been moving westward as far as relationships and influence goes for a while now. NATO is a defense pact which members join democratically and willingly, nobody is forced into it. Putin is concerned that he is losing his grip and sphere of influence on Eastern Europe. He's also former KGB and believes the dissolution of the USSR is the greatest tragedy of the 20th century (as if there wasn't a holocaust or countless Soviet dead during the battle of Stalingrad for a more localized example.) This invasion is Russia spitting in the face of NATO to attack an economically stable democratic democratic nation with western ambitions. As shytty as this sounds, people tend not to care about struggling nations with weak or autocratic governments like they do about nations like Ukraine, who could easily fit in with EU/NATO nations if not for their neighbors chipping away at their borders.

Not only this, it's one of the first major conflicts on European soil in decades. The relative peace and stability the world has experienced lately has been built on the threat of reprisal for violating it and by the spectre of nuclear Armageddon. This is an authoritarian testing the limits of this stability by invading a sovereign nation and daring the world to do something about it. If they do something about it, it could get nuclear hot VERY quickly. If they do nothing, every autocrat with expansionist ambitions will immediately start taking land from their neighbors since Putin got away with it. Some of those autocrats and their neighbors are far more likely to spark a global military response and are more likely to result in nuclear conflict or millions of deaths (like China's desire to annex Taiwan)

Basically, there's no easy answer. Respond militarily, might spark WWIII. do nothing, sovereign nations are fukked if they have aggressive neighbors, eventually, one of those neighbors will drag their friends into conflict sparking WWIII. If china sees the world reaction to this and decides to invade Taiwan, shyt could get apocalyptic real fast. There's a gun to the world's head and we're being forced to watch a friend get beaten to death in a one sided conflict of conquest.

This has echoes of Germany's invasion of the Sudetenland in 1938. We saw what appeasing Hitler did back then, only this time there are nukes.