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[Samori Toure]

The question is rooted in that Indians under british colonialism could go to any british colony and do business and even cases of them moving to non british colonies and doing business (Look at the Tata) family. This in turn created situations where you had old money Indian families even through Colonialism. Seems like from an African perspective even the so called elite caught the sharp end of the sword.

The Indians and Chinese and other Asians would be the only groups that I can think of that would have been able to have done that. The Arabs may have also done so. The only Africans that I would think that could have done it were the Berbers, Hausa and Mande people because of their histories as long distance traders.

 

[Apollo Creed]

The Indians and Chinese and other Asians would be the only groups that I can think of that would have been able to have done that. The Arabs may have also done so. The only Africans that I would think that could have done it were the Berbers, Hausa and Mande people because of their histories as long distance traders.

I doubt Mande. Fula people are big merchants but more so regional. I would assume African merchants wouldn't even be allowed to really come to the Western World like that strictly from Slavery/Post Slavery conditions of what it meant to be Black in that part of the world. When I look at Colonization in Asia vs Africa, Asians seemed more like Do Boys/literal servants, while in Africa it may have been impossible to create that type of society since Africans were slave inventory.

 

[DrBanneker]

Can anyone point me to anything about Africans being allowed to travel to different countries and do business during Colonial times?

Not much...British West Indians who worked for the United Fruit Company in Costa Rica ended up becoming big landowners in Limon province. There was a relatively well off group of Black American and British West Indies expats in Cape Town in the late 19th and early 20th century but obviously they squashed that quickly too.

Black Americans started going to Africa as missionaries after the Civil War and that could have started something but the stress of the end of Reconstruction and the stated desire by colonial officials to not have the wrong kind of Black role models ended that too.

As far as long distance trade or us being the middlemen, I would say no. The authorities didn't want nor tolerate that.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Not much...British West Indians who worked for the United Fruit Company in Costa Rica ended up becoming big landowners in Limon province. There was a relatively well off group of Black American and British West Indies expats in Cape Town in the late 19th and early 20th century but obviously they squashed that quickly too.

Black Americans started going to Africa as missionaries after the Civil War and that could have started something but the stress of the end of Reconstruction and the stated desire by colonial officials to not have the wrong kind of Black role models ended that too.

As far as long distance trade or us being the middlemen, I would say no. The authorities didn't want nor tolerate that.

Yeah, I bring this up because I was talking with a coworker and it became glaringly clear how Non African Colonization was on some weirdo ish. Of course in most colonies there were resistantancn movements, but even them it seems like other groups got some sort of breathing room, even to the point where they could move around the world and do business (of course in most cases Europeans getting a cut), but Africans and I'd say SE Asians (there were cases of servitude in other countries but I haven't seen much of them actually going to countries and starting business), did not get that kinda breathing room.

 

[DrBanneker]

Yeah, I bring this up because I was talking with a coworker and it became glaringly clear how Non African Colonization was on some weirdo ish. Of course in most colonies there were resistantancn movements, but even them it seems like other groups got some sort of breathing room, even to the point where they could move around the world and do business (of course in most cases Europeans getting a cut), but Africans and I'd say SE Asians (there were cases of servitude in other countries but I haven't seen much of them actually going to countries and starting business), did not get that kinda breathing room.

In every colony there were favorites, usually minority groups, who the colonial governments gave leeway. It was Indians in British East Africa, Lebanese in French West Africa, Mulattoes and sometimes Indians in the Caribbean, and even in India itself, there were the Parsis, descendants of Zoroastrian Persian exiles from the Islamic conquest of Persia. At Indian independence, the Parsis were actually the dominant group in Indian business with Gujaratis, etc. catching up later. The Tata family was Parsi as were the Godrej family which are still huge conglomerates there.

 

[Apollo Creed]

In every colony there were favorites, usually minority groups, who the colonial governments gave leeway. It was Indians in British East Africa, Lebanese in French West Africa, Mulattoes and sometimes Indians in the Caribbean, and even in India itself, there were the Parsis, descendants of Zoroastrian Persian exiles from the Islamic conquest of Persia. At Indian independence, the Parsis were actually the dominant group in Indian business with Gujaratis, etc. catching up later. The Tata family was Parsi as were the Godrej family which are still huge conglomerates there.

yeah i see that. I was having a convo with an Indian and he seemed to be playing willfully ignorant to this kinda stuff.

 

[Red Shield]

Yeah, I bring this up because I was talking with a coworker and it became glaringly clear how Non African Colonization was on some weirdo ish. Of course in most colonies there were resistantancn movements, but even them it seems like other groups got some sort of breathing room, even to the point where they could move around the world and do business (of course in most cases Europeans getting a cut), but Africans and I'd say SE Asians (there were cases of servitude in other countries but I haven't seen much of them actually going to countries and starting business), did not get that kinda breathing room.

 

[Apollo Creed]

 

[Asicz]

Someone on this site said something to the effect "black Americans people are are white America's / (Democrats?)sidechick.

So true. Smh.

 

[Red Shield]

Someone on this site said something to the effect "black Americans people are are white America's / (Democrats?)sidechick.

So true. Smh.

yikes.... but yeah

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Can I PM you some questions? @loyola llothta

 

[loyola llothta]

Can I PM you some questions? @loyola llothta

Yeah

 

[The axe murderer]

How Chinese vendors are making money from videos of African children
racist scum

 

[phcitywarrior]

The joys and pains of African real estate.

 

[BigMan]

https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED025482.pdf

link to a book some of y'all might enjoy