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[jj23]

We have to protect our culture and history.

We cannot be so inclusive.

I have no problem with black people of other ethnicities but they are quick to disrespect and disregard our culture and history.

As a non American black person. I agree with this. Black Americans also have to note the influence of their culture across the world and understand why it places their culture and history in a unique position in these modern times, while finding ways to keep it guarded.

 

[Neuromancer]

I don't think it was practiced in the form of "Vodoun" like it was in West Africa -- to be labeled a ADOS cultural religion. But, major elements and influences of Vodoun were definitely integrated into our spiritual and religion practices. Conjure, Rootwork and Hoodoo being three - as well as later on.... Spiritualism.

A great book to learn more would be Mojo Workin': The Old African American Hoodoo System.

In this book, Katrina Hazzard-Donald explores African Americans' experience and practice of the herbal, healing folk belief tradition known as Hoodoo. Working against conventional scholarship, Hazzard-Donald argues that Hoodoo emerged first in three distinct regions she calls "regional Hoodoo clusters" and that after the turn of the nineteenth century, Hoodoo took on a national rather than regional profile. The first interdisciplinary examination to incorporate a full glossary of Hoodoo culture, Mojo Workin': The Old African American Hoodoo System lays out the movement of Hoodoo against a series of watershed changes in the American cultural landscape. Throughout, Hazzard-Donald distinguishes between "Old tradition Black Belt Hoodoo" and commercially marketed forms that have been controlled, modified, and often fabricated by outsiders; this study focuses on the hidden system operating almost exclusively among African Americans in the Black spiritual underground.​

As well as : Folk beliefs of the southern Negro : Puckett, Newbell Niles : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

AND

Slave religion : the "invisible institution" in the Antebellum South : Raboteau, Albert J : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Another source:

Conjure, Magic, and Power: The Influence of Afro-Atlantic Religious Practices on Slave Resistance and Rebellion on JSTOR

Thank you for the drop.

 

[Neuromancer]

We have to protect our culture and history.

We cannot be so inclusive.

I have no problem with black people of other ethnicities but they are quick to disrespect and disregard our culture and history.

A lot of black folks from other ethnicities are woefully ignorant of the history of their cousins over here. I've been surprised to learn that. And unfortunately the info they get is from cacs. There needs to be a real reeducation going on.

 

[Neuromancer]

Is anyone else here half ADOS? If so? How did your folks meet?

I've spoken before about my mother being non- ADOS and my dad is ADOS. And there wasn't any hate, animosity or disrespect family wise. It may be because my grandpa and mom wereborn here and raised in Harlem.

 

[98Ntu]

All this talk of ethnicity has me thinking and meditating on culture.

I’m a musician. I sing, write and produce music. I use to want to be a rapper/hip hop artist but moved away from the idea as a Zimbabwean, as I felt it was appropriative of Black American musical culture.

While Afro-Western styles like Jamaican dancehall, Cuban rhumba and American rap and house, have been hugely influential in Zimbabwe and Africa at large, I feel funny about co-opting genres that are Afro-diasporic. It seems like theft. Especially considering the way that Afro-Western music, especially rap, house and dancehall, are exploited and sold to the highest bidder.

I promise there is a point to my rambling lol.

ADOS and other diasporans, do you care if Africans play apart in musical scenes that you have created? Do you find it appropriative? Do you think it’s respectful? If not, how can Africans show respect to Afro-Western people, your music and your struggle?

I want to bridge gaps and not burn more bridges. I hope I was clear enough

 

[Apollo Creed]

Can anyone point me to anything about Africans being allowed to travel to different countries and do business during Colonial times?

 

[Secure Da Bag]

All this talk of ethnicity has me thinking and meditating on culture.

I’m a musician. I sing, write and produce music. I use to want to be a rapper/hip hop artist but moved away from the idea as a Zimbabwean, as I felt it was appropriative of Black American musical culture.

While Afro-Western styles like Jamaican dancehall, Cuban rhumba and American rap and house, have been hugely influential in Zimbabwe and Africa at large, I feel funny about co-opting genres that are Afro-diasporic. It seems like theft. Especially considering the way that Afro-Western music, especially rap, house and dancehall, are exploited and sold to the highest bidder.

I promise there is a point to my rambling lol.

ADOS and other diasporans, do you care if Africans play apart in musical scenes that you have created? Do you find it appropriative? Do you think it’s respectful? If not, how can Africans show respect to Afro-Western people, your music and your struggle?

I want to bridge gaps and not burn more bridges. I hope I was clear enough

Well, how come you don't do Afrobeat or Afrobeats?

To answer your question, there's always an opportunity to provide opportunity. IOW, have people from those communities feature on your songs.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

Can anyone point me to anything about Africans being allowed to travel to different countries and do business during Colonial times?

@Samori Toure ?

 

[98Ntu]

Well, how come you don't do Afrobeat or Afrobeats?

To answer your question, there's always an opportunity to provide opportunity. IOW, have people from those communities feature on your songs.

Thanks for offering insight.

I actually am primarily an “Afro” artist. Afrobeats is primarily West African music. Zimbabwe doesn’t have a cool name for our sound, we just have generic ass “Afropop”


I have a few sonic ideas that I hope will change African and black music for the better.

And I like the idea of collabing with rappers and reggae artists. I would enjoy giving that a shot. I think it would build bridges rather nicely. Thanks for the input breh

 

[Samori Toure]

@Samori Toure ?

No. I don't know anything about that. I do know that the White man moved some African ethnic groups and none Africans to other areas in Africa to do work, but I don't know of any Africans that did it on their own.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

Zimbabwe doesn’t have a cool name for our sound, we just have generic ass “Afropop”

Change it to "Afrovibe" or "Afrovibes".

I don't see how Africans don't get Afrobeat and Afrobeats confused. It's so easy to get confused.

 

[98Ntu]

Change it to "Afrovibe" or "Afrovibes".

I don't see how Africans don't get Afrobeat and Afrobeats confused. It's so easy to get confused.

Breh, I swear I saw some Nigerian dudes call their sound “Afro-vibes” lol. My heart sunk when I saw that

I guess we just calling Zim music, Afropop for now


And it is confusing af. I think Afrobeat is old school music like Fela Kuti while Afrobeats is Wizkid, Burna Boy and these new kids.

 

[Apollo Creed]

No. I don't know anything about that. I do know that the White man moved some African ethnic groups and none Africans to other areas in Africa to do work, but I don't know of any Africans that did it on their own.

The question is rooted in that Indians under british colonialism could go to any british colony and do business and even cases of them moving to non british colonies and doing business (Look at the Tata) family. This in turn created situations where you had old money Indian families even through Colonialism. Seems like from an African perspective even the so called elite caught the sharp end of the sword.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Breh, I swear I saw some Nigerian dudes call their sound “Afro-vibes” lol. My heart sunk when I saw that

I guess we just calling Zim music, Afropop for now


And it is confusing af. I think Afrobeat is old school music like Fela Kuti while Afrobeats is Wizkid, Burna Boy and these new kids.

man just call it African music. The end

 

[98Ntu]

man just call it African music. The end

I’ll take your advice. The name really matter that much at this point tbh