The Roland Martin Discussion Thread

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yeah it's really gonna be something to pay attention to because on one hand, as a business man Trump understands the Black Dollar, and on the other hand, he understands that to keep the top 1% of wealthy Americans in the position they are in, they can't transfer wealth. Those two things have to intersect somewhere if you're a business man who is also the leader of the free world. Not sure which direction most of his policies will go in, but economics just might be the platform where he gets the most resistance from his "party"
I wouldn't be surprised if Trump ends up being the typical Republican. I also wouldn't be surprised if he ends up impeached. I also wouldn't be surprised if he steps down mid term in 2018 and hands the keys to Pence
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Trump has always surrounded himself with successful people so of whom have even been black. For these alt righters to get what they want the whole system would have to be done over and Capitalism would have to end. The average white American just wants to go to work, come home and play with their dogs and go on a vac each year. Most are oblivious to real politics. Everything would have to be sacrificed. Whose gonna go for that? Whats gonna happen when the average working class American he offered jobs to still cant get one?
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if Trump ends up being the typical Republican. I also wouldn't be surprised if he ends up impeached. I also wouldn't be surprised if he steps down mid term in 2018 and hands the keys to Pence
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Trump has always surrounded himself with successful people so of whom have even been black. For these alt righters to get what they want the whole system would have to be done over and Capitalism would have to end. The average white American just wants to go to work, come home and play with their dogs and go on a vac each year. Most are oblivious to real politics. Everything would have to be sacrificed. Whose gonna go for that? Whats gonna happen when the average working class American he offered jobs to still cant get one?

Do you think the Trump administration will be more hardline with regimes or allies in the Middle East such as Saudi Arabia? or will the relationship continue like past American Administrations such as Clinton, Obama, and Bush? Due to the resources or oil.

and what is your take on the potential ban of Muslims from Mena and North Africa? What i find funny due to Trump rhetoric some of my friends or associates are now wearing the hijab, or becoming hijabis due to Trump and the alt-right rhetoric.
 

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Do you think the Trump administration will be more hardline with regimes or allies in the Middle East such as Saudi Arabia? or will the relationship continue like past American Administrations such as Clinton, Obama, and Bush? Due to the resources or oil.

and what is your take on the potential ban of Muslims from Mena and North Africa? What i find funny due to Trump rhetoric some of my friends or associates are now wearing the hijab, or becoming hijabis due to Trump and the alt-right rhetoric.
Honestly as far as the Middle East goes I think itll be status quo. Nothing effects our economy more than oil. As far as his immigration policies I do think he's make it tougher to get into the country but not as extreme as his supporters hope it to be
 
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Interesting that a bulk of the comments in here are celebratory of the fact that this guy got "worked" in an interview on BET, smh.

As usual, I'm more interesting in finding levity in the conversation and would like to dialogue on how we move forward from here. For one, I'm appreciative of the fact that this supremacist actually got on TV and articulated a very candid insight into how most white people think. Yeah, yeah I know a bunch of you probably like "we already knew this" or whatever other dismissive rhetoric you'd like to apply to what he shared. But in reality, this is big, white people very rarely admit to systemic racism in public, they typically go for the smoke and mirrors approach of KKK, Neo-Nazi, or rural overt redneck bigotry that is hard for us to compete with from a legal standpoint.

Point is, the things he's saying, about Euro-Centric pride and how whites have a superior intellect and are more capable of creating and maintaining power structures is usually closed door talk, but this is the stuff they instill in their children and never really expressed on a public platform. My question to everyone responding: fukk however you feel about Roland "bodying" him, how do you feel about what the man said, from an ideological standpoint? What do you think we can do to combat it? Do you at least appreciate that he admitted it/put it out there so bluntly? Not looking for daps, looking for dialogue, or as usual do y'all have nothing further to contribute other than a few catch phrases, rhetoric and blind threats? Let's chat...
There is no point in combating false theories like Whites created the pyramids. It's silly. And there is no combating the nonsense they spew to their kids. They aren't interested in real intellectual debate. If they did, they would research the opposing sides/perspectives and would have never come to those foolish conclusions.

Black people don't have time to be debating or combating this kind of stuff. What we need to do has been said many times on here and that group who have already realized what needs to be done are beginning to mobilize. Those of us not in the know will be informed/find out very soon. No need for speaking too freely here with all these white lurkers around, know what I mean ;)
 

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There is no point in combating false theories like Whites created the pyramids. It's silly. And there is no combating the nonsense they spew to their kids. They aren't interested in real intellectual debate. If they did, they would research the opposing sides/perspectives and would have never come to those foolish conclusions.

Black people don't have time to be debating or combating this kind of stuff. What we need to do has been said many times on here and that group who have already realized what needs to be done are beginning to mobilize. Those of us not in the know will be informed/find out very soon. No need for speaking too freely here with all these white lurkers around, know what I mean ;)

Fair enough on the final point, but to the other stuff, I maintain the position that we look weak celebrating like Roland won some type of championship debating this supremacist.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if Trump ends up being the typical Republican. I also wouldn't be surprised if he ends up impeached. I also wouldn't be surprised if he steps down mid term in 2018 and hands the keys to Pence
:mjlol:
Trump has always surrounded himself with successful people so of whom have even been black. For these alt righters to get what they want the whole system would have to be done over and Capitalism would have to end. The average white American just wants to go to work, come home and play with their dogs and go on a vac each year. Most are oblivious to real politics. Everything would have to be sacrificed. Whose gonna go for that? Whats gonna happen when the average working class American he offered jobs to still cant get one?

Agreed. Trump is new to the political game but at the end of the day the dude is now a politician.

Which is to make promises and break them once elected.

He will throw some bones to the far right way like Bush jr did. But he won't go full neocon cause the shyt is bad for business overall.

Plus we all know as any politician a bunch of back side deals were cut or before the election and othat is one of the reasons dude already going back on his word on somethings.
 
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Fair enough on the final point, but to the other stuff, I maintain the position that we look weak celebrating like Roland won some type of championship debating this supremacist.
Who is we? A few people on here now represent the whole board, let alone 30 million of us? Why are you generalizing, brother?
 

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Honestly as far as the Middle East goes I think itll be status quo. Nothing effects our economy more than oil. As far as his immigration policies I do think he's make it tougher to get into the country but not as extreme as his supporters hope it to be

Yep and it is not just oil with the middle east. Folks forget just how much shyt the folks from that area buy from us.

shyt reminds me of the situation between china and the US. China might criticize the US but they will continue to do business with us because we buy so much of their shyt.

So much so that in 2008 when the economy tanked they loaned us money so we could keep buying their shyt.....:mjlol:
 

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Who is we? A few people on here now represent the whole board, let alone 30 million of us? Why are you generalizing, brother?

Naw man, that was the point of the whole post I made that you originally responded to (Interesting that a bulk of the comments in here are celebratory of the fact that this guy got "worked" in an interview on BET, smh.), so in summation, I was just reiterating my original statement that ...although I agree with you that how we respond may not need to be general/public information, I'm still standing by the initial opening statement.., my bad if that was unclear, but you quoted me, so I thought you got that...or are you just looking for a fight? :manny:
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if Trump ends up being the typical Republican. I also wouldn't be surprised if he ends up impeached. I also wouldn't be surprised if he steps down mid term in 2018 and hands the keys to Pence
:mjlol:
Trump has always surrounded himself with successful people so of whom have even been black. For these alt righters to get what they want the whole system would have to be done over and Capitalism would have to end. The average white American just wants to go to work, come home and play with their dogs and go on a vac each year. Most are oblivious to real politics. Everything would have to be sacrificed. Whose gonna go for that? Whats gonna happen when the average working class American he offered jobs to still cant get one?

According to the alt right and many whites they believe this country has become communist or socialist. And according to Marx before a place becomes fascism, first it has to have gone through communism.
 

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According to the alt right and many whites they believe this country has become communist or socialist. And according to Marx before a place becomes fascism, first it has to have gone through communism.

Yeah them clowns and them birthers were talking that communism shyt once Obama was elected.
 
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