@the hate for atheists here, even the supposed "liberal" Bob Beckel. It's easy to say this is just a bunch of conservative Fox News dikkheads, but Dana Perino was actually the White House Press Secretary and worked for the Justice Department.
what rights??
unborn babies being killed allover the nation but we dnt seem to support their "rights"
Which just goes back to my point
Personhood is as is undefined and can be defined anyhow..the denial of the "innate rights" of man destroys any foundation to personhood and leaves it open to any interpretation
I don't understand why you keep bringing shyt up that has nothing to do with "god" being in the pledge of allegiance or why you rail against nihilism (which you confuse stubbornly with apathy) ALL while invoking AN AD HOMINEM.
As it is now..in the context of our laws..personhood is not defined...so all things are permissable because technically the govt can deem any group of people they seem fit, non persons...In light of ur nihilistic worldview ofc
And you've lost it again.
you mean the part added in 1956 in response to communism?
Words on paper are not universal truths. The reality is people do what they want, because they can. You sound like a bytch straight up. If atheists want to do something about this they have to get their money up(ironically the same money they're fighting to change) and use the power that comes with that money to lobby these things out of existence.
Words on paper are not universal truths. The reality is people do what they want, because they can. You sound like a bytch straight up. If atheists want to do something about this they have to get their money up(ironically the same money they're fighting to change) and use the power that comes with that money to lobby these things out of existence.
You think they're going to take In God We Trust and Under God out off of the bill and out of the constitution because some bytch made internet fakkit feels emotional about it? You sound naive and young and also moronic.
Citing history facts is cute but theres no power behind that so until you get your In God We Trusts up? fukk outta here.
There are people in this world who know how the world works. You arent one of those people because you are a bytch. I wont give two shyts abotu secularism because i understand that people with money, sway public opinion.
They dont...
...what???????
What?
I never claimed they were innate. I'm saying that what people CALL innate rights were in fact created.
I like how you dress this sentence up to make it sound more profound than it actually is.
U say u hate religion cuz its made up false but then u'll accept some made up stuff tho right
Mr. nihilist allow people to do what they want cuz demanding otherwise on the basis of preserving these mythologies of justice, morality and the like only exposes ur contradictory behavior
There are people in this world who know how the world works. You arent one of those people because you are a bytch. I wont give two shyts abotu secularism because i understand that people with money, sway public opinion.
The people who have the preference are the people with the money you fukkin idiot. So you want to see Christians squirm with issues in regards to Muslims but where do you fit into that because wouldnt you be just as mad at the Muslims as you are Christians. You have no fukking idea what you stand for in your own mind. Just an emotional bytch boy that needs an outlet for being a Broke Loser in real life. Get your fukkin money up faggit and maybe then you'll have an idea how real changes are made in this country. It definately isnt through whining like a bytch like you are right now. Grow up, p*ssy.
No you came to whine like a bytch. The policy wont be enforced. So what are you gonna do about it? Nothing. Raise awareness?Money isn't the issue here.
This isn't about creating policy.
its about enforcing existing policy.
BIG difference asswipe.
I'll probably evade the fact that I DEFINITELY make more money than you do a year (I'd be shocked to find out that you do), but I know plenty enough how the world works.
its the fact that I came to this board to discuss this issue....unless you don't want a message board to be used as as...message board????
fakkit you gotta pay money to raise awareness. You gotta pay money to get people to pay attention to the pointless shyt that bothers you. Taking in God we trust off of bills and pledges doesnt make anyone 1 damn dollar but it costs alot to get it done so the average person could give a shyt. Its just silly broke fukkboys like you with nothing going on in their life and their false crusades becaues you read a google article on the history of the dollar. You're a clown. Nobodies wasting money on that bullshyt but hats off to the fakkit that does. Thats a man who really wanted that shyt gone. You? Just a typical whiny fakkit..They dont...
They dont...
...what???????
What?
Thats what YOU are doing.
I never claimed they were innate. I'm saying that what people CALL innate rights were in fact created.
I like how you dress this sentence up to make it sound more profound than it actually is.
...and it still doesn't make any sense.
Arbitrary law doesn't claim to have objective truth. Thats the point.
Plus, the supernatural tenets invoked by religion doesn't lend any credibility to its utility.
Keep trying.
My problem with religious people isn't their view on how to rule the world, its the source of where they get that inspiration.
if you wanted to say you were against abortion because of reasons you had OUTSIDE of some supernatural deity, then I'd listen to your argument.
Religious people ALWAYS will lose by invoking a supernatural third party who claims superiority over everyone in the discussion.
Politicians who source their plans in reality and not from a 1st century goat herder TEND to have more valid points.
Hov da gawd 
