The Red Army had a Black Colonel

[theworldismine13]

it's easier to toss insults than make arguments. OP did not argue whether Stalin was good or evil yet somehow this discussion has evolved to answer that question. The polemicists on this forum are ridiculous.

actually he did, he said that he admired stalin ideologies and that the west lied about him

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Stalin and Hitler weren't 'evil', just misunderstood, brehs.​

 

[Dr. Sebi Jr.]

OP is the epitome of that guy you know who thinks he's deep but really dumb as fukk.

He is my righteous brother. We do our own research. Who told you Stalin was a bad person? Some CAC? And you believed it? SHEEPLE. World War 2 was a false flag operation.

The Black community needs a Stalin to go with our Hitler. @HoopDreams94 do not let these DEVILS and AGENTS get you down. YOU will be the one who saves the BLACK race with the KNOWLEDGE you uncover.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Higher learning: where people make threads stanning Hitler and Stalin.

@BarNone @Brown_Pride I think this is what y'all make that new little subforum for. The OP was asked repeatedly to validate his claim that Stalin's genocidal actions were the stuff of western propaganda with any evidence. He's offered zero.

 

[Batman]

Hitler did nothing wrong.

 

[No1]

Let mebe clear, everyone's opinions are respected In Higher Learning because apparently the rules were not absorbed by everyone. If you think something shouldn't be in here, then report the post and either I or @Brown_Pride will handle it. No one on the board has the right to derail someone else's thread unless the OP agrees with or participates willfully in deterring it. As far as I can see the OP's thread was not really about Stalin but about a historical note. As we said in the rules, we will side with the original poster more often than not in these cases. However, this thread is being moved because @HoopDreams94 did not follow the rules and did not provide any article or historical background to support his claim. If he edits one in, the thread will be moved back here. If you're not going to contribute the topic, then just ignore the thread or 1 star it or whatever else you feel.

Now if HoopDreams wants to continue this clowning around referendum on Stalin, he is free to do so but the OP' s topic should reflect that.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

this thread man

 

[GetInTheTruck]

it's easier to toss insults than make arguments. OP did not argue whether Stalin was good or evil yet somehow this discussion has evolved to answer that question. The polemicists on this forum are ridiculous.

Look at the thread title.

 

[newarkhiphop]

#blackexcellence

 

[WaveGang]

I'll bury this thread wit the words of George Padmore (OP)

Until the day Stalin restores to the Russian and foreign capitalists their properties and allows them to set up in Moscow a stock exchange and all the other paraphernalia of finance-capital, the Western capitalists will never give up their plans to drown the Russian working class in blood in the attempt to regain what they lost in 1917. These money-bags have no more interest in the Finnish workers and peasants per se than they had in Czechoslovakia, Austria, Abyssinia or China, which has been struggling for many years to throw off the yoke not only of the Japanese but of the imperialisms of France, Britain and America. The British and French imperialists, who have conquered scores of nations in the past and have trampled on the rights of weaker peoples, are not concerned with the principle of self-determination but merely use it as a slogan to mask their own imperial and class interests.

It is significant that Mussolini, who has grabbed Abyssinia with the aid of poison gas and sent his legions into Albania on the holiest day in the calendar of the Catholic Church – Good Friday – is today foremost among those denouncing Stalin’s aggression. And the Vatican, which gave its blessing to the Abyssinian adventure, is not lagging in its criticism of the Reds.

The American capitalists are just as hypocritical as their European counterparts. When they considered that the construction of the Panama Canal was essential to the national safety of the United States, they blatantly disregarded the sovereignty of Columbia and resorted to the same technique that Stalin is now trying to foist upon Finland.

In 1903, Franklin Roosevelt’s cousin, Theodore, then President of the United States, decided to cut a ship canal through Central America to facilitate the quick movement of the American Navy between the Atlantic and the Pacific. He instructed his Secretary of State, Hay – Molotov’s opposite – to enter into negotiations with the Columbian Ambassador in Washington for a concession to build a canal, which the Colombian Parliament refused to grant on the terms proposed. Roosevelt then conspired with a group of Columbian political refugees in America, and Wall Street financed and armed them to stage a revolution. Roosevelt immediately recognised the rebel Government, which proclaimed itself the Republic of Panama, and an American army was landed on the Isthmus to protect this puppet Government against intervention by the lawful Columbian authorities. The puppet Government there and then accepted the exact terms which had originally been refused by the lawful Government – a lease of the canal zone ten miles wide and the right of occupation by American military and naval forces. In return America guaranteed the protection and maintenance of the Panama Republic!

We mention these facts to illustrate the hypocrisy and perfidy of the capitalists. We say that Stalin is wrong, but only socialists and true internationalists have the right to say that Stalin is wrong, for we are consistent in our attitude. The bourgeoisie wink at aggression when it suits their imperialist interests and denounce it when it does not. Perhaps they would like us to believe that Gibraltar is on the British coast, that Cyprus is in the English Channel, and Kenya – to say nothing of India! – in the Scottish highlands. Bourgeois morality is completely immoral.

 

[Scientific Playa]

Yep, he was an advisor to Stalin

Born in Trinidad

He was organizing Africans against European imperialism and Stalin said no. So they split ways, Great Pan- Africanist, he put his people first when alot would sell out. Take note Black Excellence

I found the name but couldn't locate the Colonel part of your op .....


George Padmore

Born Malcolm Ivan Meredith Nurse
June 28, 1903
Arouca, Trinidad
Died September 23, 1959 (aged 56)
London, England
Nationality Trinidadian


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Padmore

Communist
During his college years Nurse became involved with the Workers (Communist) Party and when engaged in party business adopted the name George Padmore (compounding the Christian name of his father-in-law, Constabulary Sergeant-Major George Semper, and the surname of the friend who had been his best man, Errol Padmore).[5] Padmore officially joined the Communist Party in 1927 and was active in its mass organization targeted to black Americans, the American Negro Labor Congress.[6] In March 1929 Padmore was a fraternal (non-voting) delegate to the 6th National Convention of the CPUSA, held in New York City.[7]

Padmore, an energetic worker and prolific writer, was tapped by Communist Party trade union leader William Z. Foster as a rising star and was taken to Moscow to deliver a report on the formation of the Trade Union Unity League to the Communist International later in 1929.[6] Following the delivery of his report, Padmore was asked to stay on in Moscow to head the Negro Bureau of the Red International of Labour Unions (Profintern).[6] He was even elected to the Moscow City Soviet,[6] an institution roughly equivalent to city councils in the west.

As head of the Profintern's Negro Bureau Padmore helped to produce pamphlet literature and contributed articles to Moscow's English-language newspaper, the Moscow Daily News.[8] He was also used periodically as a courier of funds from Moscow to various foreign Communist Parties.[9]

In July 1930, Padmore was instrumental in organizing an international conference in Hamburg, Germany which launched a Comintern-backed international organization of black labour organizations called the International Trade Union Committee of Negro Workers (ITUCNW).[9] Padmore lived in Vienna, Austria during this time, where he edited the monthly publication of the new group, The Negro Worker.[

 

[WaveGang]

I found the name but couldn't locate the Colonel part of your op .....


George Padmore

Born Malcolm Ivan Meredith Nurse
June 28, 1903
Arouca, Trinidad
Died September 23, 1959 (aged 56)
London, England
Nationality Trinidadian


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Padmore

Communist
During his college years Nurse became involved with the Workers (Communist) Party and when engaged in party business adopted the name George Padmore (compounding the Christian name of his father-in-law, Constabulary Sergeant-Major George Semper, and the surname of the friend who had been his best man, Errol Padmore).[5] Padmore officially joined the Communist Party in 1927 and was active in its mass organization targeted to black Americans, the American Negro Labor Congress.[6] In March 1929 Padmore was a fraternal (non-voting) delegate to the 6th National Convention of the CPUSA, held in New York City.[7]

Padmore, an energetic worker and prolific writer, was tapped by Communist Party trade union leader William Z. Foster as a rising star and was taken to Moscow to deliver a report on the formation of the Trade Union Unity League to the Communist International later in 1929.[6] Following the delivery of his report, Padmore was asked to stay on in Moscow to head the Negro Bureau of the Red International of Labour Unions (Profintern).[6] He was even elected to the Moscow City Soviet,[6] an institution roughly equivalent to city councils in the west.

As head of the Profintern's Negro Bureau Padmore helped to produce pamphlet literature and contributed articles to Moscow's English-language newspaper, the Moscow Daily News.[8] He was also used periodically as a courier of funds from Moscow to various foreign Communist Parties.[9]

In July 1930, Padmore was instrumental in organizing an international conference in Hamburg, Germany which launched a Comintern-backed international organization of black labour organizations called the International Trade Union Committee of Negro Workers (ITUCNW).[9] Padmore lived in Vienna, Austria during this time, where he edited the monthly publication of the new group, The Negro Worker.[

Greetings my Afrikan brother

I was actually told this fact by an old head, and I too couldn't find historical fact to back the colonel status when I scratched the surface

As we both well and know, the majority of Afrikan history is suppressed and this is no different

It took me masses of independent research, reading through George Padmore's works to actually connect the dots and unravel what his story was, amid the few vague paragraphs they have made to marginalize his achievements.

Here is a decent research point,have a look through these

http://www.marxists.org/archive/padmore/

And Stalin did infact appoint him a colonel of the red army. George Padmore was a top organizer for the international communist party

He was central commity of the communist party of the soviet union. When he withdrew from it because they didnt want him organizing Afrikan Revolutions they made him a "non person.

good read

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/40401768?uid=2129&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&sid=21103694245313