onelastdeath
Banned
Glorifying killing and guns while he's a millionaire.
THE PSA: Blaming hip hop
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Glorifying killing and guns while he's a millionaire.
That's a common theme of the culture right?
onelastdeath
Banned
Unfortunately
Damn you Kendrick, Drake, J. Cole, and Lecrae, y'all can't outsell gangsta rap, even though it doesn't sell records.
Oops.
Oops.
AyBrehHam Linkin
First Black Brehsident
that's a common theme of american culture in general. white people went to the middle east and slaughtered nigh a million people simply because "MURICA".
rap, just like every music before that is blamed for societal ills, does not do shyt. maybe afew individuals gang bang or try to because they heard a song, but in general rap doesnt do shyt.
I've made the same points that @Washington_Red made when this topic frequently shows its face, and its the fact statistical evidence fails to support the claim that hip hop is a verifiable negative for black youth. Almost all important metrics when it comes to black youth are moving in the right direction. A serious study hasnt established a relationship either way, but the fact that crime has plummeted during the hip hop generation doesnt lend any empirical validity to what the anti-hip hop crowd keeps yappin about.
So we know the anti-hip hop niccas are going off their "feelings". These feelings of theirs are manifested two fold. Either:
A) Current Hip Hop is a daily reminder they're aging.
Hip hop's target audience has always been teenagers and young adults, and its messages are powered by rebellion, aggression, hedonism, and a care free attitude and lack of maturity that only youth brings. When rap critics hear contemporary rap, it reminds them that they arent invited to that party anymore. This is evidenced by older hip hop fans romanticizing about the artists from their day, and how much better they were --- a time when rap was far more violent themed and misogynistic, which obviously works against their message of moralizing against negative lyrics. Rap was great back in the day because they were younger, and now they're not so its not.
B) Rap activates their own self-hatred.
You'll hear them complain about how rap makes black people look bad, as if they are paralyzed by the idea that another black man acting ignorantly is a reflection on themselves. Basically they are obsessed with being judged by other groups. Additionally, they have such a low regard for the intelligence and maturity of other black people. They think whites and other groups are smart enough to handle adult hip hop messages, while they consider blacks dumber, emotionally regressive, and therefore ill equipped to listen to rap --- as if the average black teen is going to listen to "Trap Queen" and be inspired to throw his school books in the trash, and go run work out the 'bando.
So we know the anti-hip hop niccas are going off their "feelings". These feelings of theirs are manifested two fold. Either:
A) Current Hip Hop is a daily reminder they're aging.
Hip hop's target audience has always been teenagers and young adults, and its messages are powered by rebellion, aggression, hedonism, and a care free attitude and lack of maturity that only youth brings. When rap critics hear contemporary rap, it reminds them that they arent invited to that party anymore. This is evidenced by older hip hop fans romanticizing about the artists from their day, and how much better they were --- a time when rap was far more violent themed and misogynistic, which obviously works against their message of moralizing against negative lyrics. Rap was great back in the day because they were younger, and now they're not so its not.
B) Rap activates their own self-hatred.
You'll hear them complain about how rap makes black people look bad, as if they are paralyzed by the idea that another black man acting ignorantly is a reflection on themselves. Basically they are obsessed with being judged by other groups. Additionally, they have such a low regard for the intelligence and maturity of other black people. They think whites and other groups are smart enough to handle adult hip hop messages, while they consider blacks dumber, emotionally regressive, and therefore ill equipped to listen to rap --- as if the average black teen is going to listen to "Trap Queen" and be inspired to throw his school books in the trash, and go run work out the 'bando.
he sure listened to his fair share of j cole
AyBrehHam Linkin
First Black Brehsident
incarceration and crime arent the same boo boo
Data-Hawk
I have no strings on me.
Alan Emerald
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ThatTruth777
Superstar
I agree hip hop can be a tool of empowerment but if we don't control it (which is stupid and infuriating) and use it wisely to put out messages in that vein then what are you pushing? You're pushing a mindset that can be detrimental/harmful to those not ready to hear those false tall tales and messages. I've read "its just entertainment/ who would take what a rapper says seriously" on here many times when that point is brought up but people do take these rappers as role models and are influenced by there words/actions as a result. They get so used to hearing certain messages and don't want to hear any other even if its good for them because they've been conditioned to hear garbage. You can fool yourself but you can't conceal the effects it has on the youth in reality because their way of dress, talking and thinking is a reflection of hip hop even in its most minor degree. And that's not even getting into the propaganda aspect of how it shapes our image to outsiders. My brother used to listen to all kind of rap but when he started his family, he wanted to give me his stuff because he didn't want to raise his child listening to and emulating these "entertainers."
And while those questions are pertinent, answer this. Is hip hop contributing to the problems we as a group face? You can't say without doubt that it does not. So, retool it to be productive or throw it into trash bin of history. Its intention has to match its purpose.
And while those questions are pertinent, answer this. Is hip hop contributing to the problems we as a group face? You can't say without doubt that it does not. So, retool it to be productive or throw it into trash bin of history. Its intention has to match its purpose.