The Powerful Nature of our music/ The destructive power of rap

[Blackking]

Is it my fault I have a good memory and yours is selective?

lol, this thread got off track like crazy.



and i remember news information you guys post. I remember low key business shyt. I remember knowledge that some of the black posters post... it's how my mind works. I don't remember about u guys cuz I don't plan on trying to do what u guys attempted to do to me in here.... because my offline life is lived in such as way that it would be like attacking infants if I were to seriously feel the need to talk shyt. (towards the particulars who decide to attack me)- some people are cool

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

You only really f'd up with me with the buddha thread and saying that Xingyiquan wasn't practical

It's no hate, you just tend to make comments sometimes that seem like you're belittling people or what they enjoy. It's the internet though, not worth ruminating about for more than a page

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Now black guys are lying when they say honor student.... interesting. very interesting.
lol, never stated my income.. never been 'that guy'. I don't know what to say about "dimes" i mean, if it comes up... then yea I speak on that. What do you consider mad, women?, lol -- and people make decisions and mistakes when they are young... who are you to judge for that?? And hell yeah I'm a MA - I try to get everyone to do it.. there is soo much that go into it, but you get madd shyt out of it. I'ts worth it. And wtf is wrong with IT??? I like the industry, Plus I thinks it's an avenue for black people that I hope to push onto the youth one day... when I get some things together. Nothing wrong with OG's - in the context in which that came up.

I don't give a fukk about all that, I'm not talking about "black guys," I'm talking about you. All I'm saying is that you seem like a cornball cat going extra hard to try and look like the "total package" on here. That's how you come across to me.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

don't worry about my multicultural shyt I have going on.


And yes, the ancient indians were black... You can't go in at me about that because that's not my opinion - it's just what it is... Not a big deal. And yes, I will feel insulted when the first time I see a poster bring up black women...they have to b hoes. I didn't like that shyt coming from him or you (I forget which one it was)... maybe I took it wrong, but it was inappropriate in the context he was speaking about.

You don't have no multicultural shyt going on, because I know for a fact you don't be up in your Indian co-workers face talking about their culture was created by Africans...that's junk you throw up on here to try and look like you got some jewels to share when you know that shyt is mad stale.

Your fake outrage at that comment from dude was mad artificial.

mad cause he called some broads hoes...maybe them chicks he was fukking with were hoes, so what?

If you a hoe you a hoe,

 

[Blackking]

You don't have no multicultural shyt going on, because I know for a fact you don't be up in your Indian co-workers face talking about their culture was created by Africans...that's junk you throw up on here to try and look like you got some jewels to share when you know that shyt is mad stale.

Your fake outrage at that comment from dude was mad artificial.

mad cause he called some broads hoes...maybe them chicks he was fukking with were hoes, so what?

If you a hoe you a hoe,

lol, I don't really speak to Indian co workers about that type of shyt... my professional life has a focus, so I don't bring up shyt at work. Either-way some of them are recently str8 from India... some of the people I skype with are still in India, so it would just be weird to bring that shyt up. I simply ask them about their culture.. try to get info before my trips. One paki dude I do talk shyt w, he talks shyt too, we talk shyt together, plus we are both Muslim and relate about CAC. He's the one that hates Indians (low key), not me, I defend them...

it was how he said it , dude was like They like Indian guys, then hoes, saying that they speak about random indian films.... I don't think my response was outrage, I thought the clowning was appropriate.

I'm surprised that the white owners of this site allow CAC to be thrown around so freely.... didn't know they were white, so that's just funny to me considering some of the convos.

 

[Blackking]

I don't give a fukk about all that, I'm not talking about "black guys," I'm talking about you. All I'm saying is that you seem like a cornball cat going extra hard to try and look like the "total package" on here. That's how you come across to me.

lol, total package to who? I'm not a millionaire. but i do try to do the things that i feel most black kids should do, cuz people believe they can't make an impact when they can. Besides, eventually I want to be a black elitist like @theworldismine13 plus how else am I supposed to pull the black and 'other' "hoes" if I'm not well rounded?

 

[theworldismine13]

Music like this makes me want to make something of myself. It means something different to everyone.





If you are middle class or something you probably just dont understand.

when i see that what i see is an intellectual and economic dead end for black people, it doesn't represent where we want to go as a people and it doesnt contribute to creating safe prosperous black communities

 

[Blackking]

@GetInTheTruck @Kool G Trap I need to go play Criket with Kishna and Prasanna; with Lata Mangeshkar playing in the background to prove to you guys that I'm cool.

 

[theworldismine13]

rap is trash, plain and simple. yea sure, there are indeed conscious and intelligent rappers, but they are not the ones people wanna listen to. they wanna listen to assclowns like these ignorant ass pieces of shyt.

the problem is, not only do minorities listen to that bullshyt, so do white people.

so on the one hand, we got the least intelligent among our people condoning rap stereotypes and embracing them as all they can be, and on the other you got the least intelligent among white people doing the same and classifying everybody under the same umbrella.

rap has done more against minorities in its history than for it.

shyt is just straight fukking ridiculous. how are white people supposed to stop being racist when they see a piece of shyt like little wayne being given awards on BLACK entertainment television.

incredible.

i always go back to this boondocks clip when i talk about this.

i partially agree, but i dont agree with bringing in white people into the equation, i dont think our goal is to reduce white racism with rap music despite what jay-z is saying

you can critique rap music without bringing up white people

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

@GetInTheTruck @Kool G Trap I need to go play Criket with Kishna and Prasanna; with Lata Mangeshkar playing in the background to prove to you guys that I'm cool.

If i'm going to play cricket with muslims we should at least rock sufi in the background

 

[Richard Wright]

when i see that what i see is an intellectual and economic dead end for black people, it doesn't represent where we want to go as a people and it doesnt contribute to creating safe prosperous black communities

Youre probably just not from the hood

The elephant in the room with these discussions is that most of us people(even those of african descent) arent shyt. Sometimes we need a little motivation to remember the consequences of inaction are ending up like the people that werent shyt that we grew up around.

 

[theworldismine13]

Youre probably just not from the hood

The elephant in the room with these discussions is that most of us people(even those of african descent) arent shyt. Sometimes we need a little motivation to remember the consequences of inaction are ending up like the people that werent shyt that we grew up around.

im from the hood, im grew up in the projects of brooklyn, but ive also been all over the place, so ive learned to see things in a different way not just from the hood perspective

i wasnt disputing the motivational aspect of it, im asking what is it that you are motivated to do, what is the overall strategy? what is the goal?

these nikkas cant hold you back from what? from making a song about date rape, from making a superficial song celebrating materialism amongst the poorest communities in the country and therefore extending more poverty and financial illiteracy? from making songs celebrating selling drugs to your own people and in your neighborhood thereby increasing the blight?

im disputing whether the values and focus represents where we want to go as a people and whether that is how we want to identify ourselves and our culture, i think a lot of people in the hood cant see everything around them, sometimes we are like ants, we see 2D in universe that is actually 3D

i dont see rap as something that is putting black people ahead, i think its something that is contributing to blindness

 

[Richard Wright]

im from the hood, im grew up in the projects of brooklyn, but ive also been all over the place, so ive learned to see things in a different way not just from the hood perspective

i wasnt disputing the motivational aspect of it, im asking what is it that you are motivated to do, what is the overall strategy? what is the goal?

these nikkas cant hold you back from what? from making a song about date rape, from making a superficial song celebrating materialism amongst the poorest communities in the country and therefore extending more poverty and financial illiteracy? from making songs celebrating selling drugs to your own people and in your neighborhood thereby increasing the blight?

im disputing whether the values and focus represents where we want to go as a people and whether that is how we want to identify ourselves and our culture, i think a lot of people in the hood cant see everything around them, sometimes we are like ants, we see 2D in universe that is actually 3D

i dont see rap as something that is putting black people ahead, i think its something that is contributing to blindness

Oh youre absolutely correct. The good things I get from rap actually probably affect most people negatively. We dont control rap though, so to expect it to help us would be overly optimistic. Maybe I should go to the next concert and hand out copues of powernomics.

Rap is good for igniting that basic fire within you, but in terms of the overall stretegy you discussed, music doesnt really have that role in my life for me. I would rather read Adam Smith or Thomas Jefferson for that.

More black people need to read web dubois.

 

[John Hull]

Getting back on topic...

Music IS POWERFUL. Most don't realize that being negative and drug addicted was actually WACK at one time, lol.

White media got a hold of NWA, The Geto Boys, etc, and it's been downhill from there. They (white journalists, fans and pundits) will always gravitate towards the most ratchet, nihilistic, uneducated elements within black culture because to them it's REALER. It's the reason why CacFork and similar media outlets stan Gucci Mane, Drill Music etc... they aren't interested in our education or upward mobility, they are interested in a voyeuristic journey to the hood where demonic poor people kill each other for crumbs from the safety of their own home. At least NWA and them made dope music tho. These new nikkas are the epitome of mediocre, lowlife, EBT hustlin scumbags ever collected.

It wasn't always like this tho. Peeps forget PE was the top group in music until the Jewish media broke them up with that Professor Griff controversy. We had a mini-black renaissance in cinema too with Spike Lee, Singleton, and The Hughes Brothers kicking up dust. Damn we was winnin ya'll... Now the only nikka cakin up is Tyler Perry bytch ass

I still remember the days when nikkas was proudly wearing HBCU hoodies and X hats. Even tho that was a trend, at least it was leading us in the right direction. When the Gods and The Earths was ruling Hip Hop we were more progressive and White America was truly afraid of what this music could become.

Of course music is music-and negative music can be dope as fukk too, but unfortunately that won't help the uneducated nikka raised by a single mom, who can't discern fantasy from reality, isn't interested in school, and just wants to fukk as many broads as possible and maybe get some quick money before he dies.

Or else he grows old and becomes one of the many nikkas crowding the welfare line every week like that's a social club...

Sorry about the long post but I live in the hood, and these demonic nikkas ain't got no hope ain't no helping em at this point Willie Lynch got a winning streak goin fukk it.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

naw I'm serious about being pro black, Idk y this bothers you guys...I seriously didn't expect Indians to be offended by that shyt.

You need to understand the difference between being offended by you, and laughing at you. Speaking for myself, I am not offended by anything you say. You're not relevant enough to me to offend me. I think you're a humorous online character, as I think many who post here are. But the things you say that people take issue with, are not even remotely pro-black, they're just ignorant and anti-other people you dislike. Unless perhaps you can make a convincing case to me how describing how you think Indian men have sex on the internet upholds the legacy of Marcus Garvey.

You also need to stop claiming "pro black" as if you define and embody the term. Everybody who has a vested interest and vision for the progress and growth of black people is pro-black...everyone from John McWhorter to Louis Farrakhan, from J. C. Watts to Glen Ford is pro-black in their own vision. You can debate the merits of peoples' ideas, but you're not more pro-black than anyone else because you say "CAC" a lot on the internet.

It's been said my many posters since sohh, but I'm just gonna say it again... You guys are very unique. Just because your lil online group, all circle jerks each others warped POV and points,-- in real life things just aren't this way.

More transparent "I'm cooler than you because you post on the internet even though I post here daily too" bullshyt an 8 year old can see through.

Damn, lol, I'm a nerd.. far from it. You used to say I was dumb so which one is it.

Both. You can't be dumb and a nerd? Nerd describes your personality, not necessarily your IQ. You can be an IT nerd and still be dumb.

And there's nothing wrong with being a nerd when you've already graduated from high school.

I guess in the eyes of you lames, an urban black guy can't be intelligent.

Yeah, that's it. I'm an "intelligent urban black guy." So are all my friends and so are a lot of the posters here whose intellect I respect. You're just not one of the them.

I don't even think you realize how it looks for someone like you to talk about someone like me.

What? I already said you act like a little white girl...all image and status-obsessed always going out of your why to try and separate yourself from "lames" (even though it's apparent that's how you view yourself one some level) and turn the board into a middle school cafeteria on the set of Mean Girls with a social pecking order instead of discussing things like a grown man.

You in a mini-skirt showing your t*ts right now. You should change your name from blackking to white princess.

So let me get this straight... I'm insecure when I'm very attractive and you've been called ugly, malnourished, lame and corny. I'm light skinned... when I'm not lightskinned?? I "live in a sphere of whites and Indians - When I live in a mixed environment.. with all races and types of people but hardly any Indians. Retard, I work and have friendships w some Indians,, they don't really live around me. I don't play up being "blackking" .. I just do me.

I've been called ugly?...by males?...who post on the coli? Sorry dude, but chicks here and far more importantly, in real life have always considered me attractive. But I'm not going to play this feminine game with you.

But anyway, you've already admitted you work in IT I think, around a bunch of white dudes and Indians and you admitted you're part white. Your whole "militant pro-black blackking" Farrakhan-quoting posturing here strikes me as painfully forced and enormously exaggerated. I think you're mostly just projecting your insecurities about not feeling authentic enough and I think others here agree with that assessment. But I digress.

Also, every one online isn't "supposed" militant.. So people are real (shocker!) I've put my money were my mouth is... probably more money than you've earned in your entire adult life -

Sure you have. It's funny how you vacillate between your "blackking" militant revolutionary posture and this other narcissistic, elitist, diva-ish "I'm a sexy heterosexual former thug IT cert-having baller who fukks dimes and is superior to internet lames" one. You seem confused...and disingenuous.

Money that I've struggled and worked hard for and I'm always down for My People. Key word My people... that you pretend to identify with. Clearly since you feel the need to clown everyone who is "pro black" or anything "black" I can see what this is really about..

Ah...it took you this whole essay to try and diminish my blackness. I do not clown anyone who is "pro black," I clown you and you are not more pro black than anyone else as I stated earlier.

Maybe you should try being pro-black without hating on everyone else, including other black people who don't fit in your narrow lens. It's not that hard. Many other people, including posters here do it.

And gtfoh with all this "my people" shyt. nikka nobody elected you or appointed you to anything. If you preached most of the shyt you say here to most black people they'd be like If you were that passionate about black nationalism, you wouldn't be on the fukking internet waging jihad against cacs and fakkits all day.

so you're a IT guy, an honor student who the OG's kept out of trouble making 6 figures, fukking dimes, mad kids with mad women, and a martial artist to boot?

just stop, you had this shtick on sohh and dudes clowned you for it. nobodys buying it, better yet, nobody cares.

He also said some shyt about how he "sold poison to his people" when he was younger or something like that. Dude's full of