Idk how yall killing that oz/sal scene. shyt was perfect. I thought it was obvious why Oz went "I beat you!". It's because he didnt beat Sal and that fukks with Penguin mentally, he's lying to himself that he beat Sal. The fact that Sal died by heart attack and not by his hands bothers him.
I can see how some think the Sophia/Sal shyt didnt work. I didnt mind it and liked it. Sal was a nice counter to Carmine for Sophia. Sal values family the most where Carmine framed his daughter for several murders, sent her to Arkham, and then had her setup to stay over a decade.
Except it tonally doesn't fit with that trope, which is why the dialogue comes off as jarring and corny.
It'd be different if it was Oz whom plotted to capture and torture Sal, by setting up an elaborate plan which ran parralel to his ascendancy in the mob world. And upon killing him (along with the anticipation of that), Sal ended up having a heart attack, which then would drive Oz's torment of seemingly being in control, to then having it ripped away from him on some
snatching defeat from the jaw's of victory type thang.
Which would be all the more fitting of his story, where he'd feel like he's on the precipice of winning, only to suddenly lose and having to start all over again.
We could've got a crescendo with that, ending in Oz spitting and spluttering his way to convince himself he'd won, all with a 1000-yard stare.
Instead what we got in this scene is, Oz already being at a disadvantage, followed by some amateur hour ass setup, in every sense of the meaning; Oz spinning the same damn bullshyt trying to convince Sal the empire could be his; followed by a
banana in the tailpipe to give Oz enough time to briefly escape, leading to a physical confrontation (and that's me being generous) between two of the most physically-deficit characters in the show. There's nothing there for us to narratively sink our teeth into, so when Oz says he beat Sal and he won, all in the penultimate episode, it all seems rather pointless and empty.
Does it shed any light on Oz's character, that we didn't know before? Is it a needed part of the process of him spiralling or the self-realization of what's happening around him?
To make matters worse, when his own henchmen gather around him in wake of, we're given the same cotdamn monologue
"this man, these men, they're dead because you did the right thing, because you protected your home, your investment, I'm proud of you".
At this point we've been beaten over the head so many times with Oz vocalizing this shyt that it has no meaning anymore. If he's not saying it to Vic, he's saying it to his goons. It feels like we're navigating through a video game with all these cutscenes, where all this basic ass shyt is relayed to us, purely to break up gameplay: you and your crew defeat a boss, you collect your experience points and it quickly cuts to a scene where you thank the homies for helping you, with some generic ass adage of there still being a long road ahead.
Within a blink of an eye, they're letting in an unattended car with a bomb in it.
Oz escapes.
Only to then be captured again, almost immediately after (ending back in the same place the episode started in, and we know that no harm will come of him, again).
If I didn't know any better, I'd swear this whole sequence of events was satirical.
? Backing Batman only makes sense if he is really that dude in the city. So far we have seen very little evidence of that.
". Probably turned some people off him though. But i dont see why that explosion did,but killing his brothers didnt for those people.
