The PBC and Errol Spence continue to D U C K Terrence Bud Crawford

[Black_Jesus]

Does that make you feel good? Seriously, does it

FOH





Everything I'm stating makes sense from a strategy standpoint

Spence wants a bigger piece of the split bc he's been successful on PPV and holds more belts...well guess what, if he beats Ugas, he has 3 out of the 4 major titles

Spence offered Bud a fight where it would be a 60-40 split...Bud rejected it

How can Bud demand 50-50 when he can't sell a PPV

Bud fighting Porter was a step in the right direction...if he fights Thurman next, I'm almost positive Errol will fight Bud

Haymon will make sure Bud gets the necessary exposure

This ain't calculus lil nikka

Now go watch youtube clips and eat some scooby snacks

More lies.. Spence has NEVER offered Bud a fight.. Spence has NEVER pursued a fight with Bud.. Spence told you his plan was to fight Bud LAST.. That back n forth about a purse split for a fight that isn't available was nothing but smoke in mirrors for stupid and blind nikkas to believe that was the hold up.. Bud can't reject a fight that isn't available to be made..

You claimed this strategy is a Haymon precedent.. and thats where you killed your own argument.. this can't be precedent because it's never happened before.. I asked you to show us an example of anther fighter moving like Spence and you failed to do so.
Bud fighting Pirter didn't bring us closer to the fight.. It just made Bud look like more of a risk and clearly the superior fighter to Spence.. and thats why you see Haymon and the PBC going into this Spence protection mode..

 

[Reggie]

These guys should have fought years ago so i won't hole my breath on it happening now. The politics in boxing is outrageous and it seems it's getting worse the past decade or so with top fighters avoiding/refusing to fight each other.

 

[Black_Jesus]

These guys should have fought years ago so i won't hole my breath on it happening now. The politics in boxing is outrageous and it seems it's getting worse the past decade or so with top fighters avoiding/refusing to fight each other.

The problems is you have too many fans giving passes for fighters ducking and stalling out fights for years.. in this case you have a PBC representing straight up telling the world there is no money in making Spence vs Crawford and stupid nikkas believing the shyt.. going against their own common sense and defending it so as long as this continue we will continue to not get any fights we are demanding

 

[4-Rin]

I need yall to answer this simple question.

Spence vs Ugas
Spence vs Crawford

Which out of the two do you think would sell more?

 

[desjardins]

It’s still scummy but I think this is PBC way of undermining Bud so they can try to squeeze him into a slave deal with Spence being the carrot on the end of that deal
Them kinda tactics is probably why Bud reupped with TR last time, but whatever
Time will tell if the fight gets made, we been waiting this long so waiting till after the Ugas fight ain’t that big a deal for me
I do feel validated that a lot of people are starting to express that they feel like PBC weren’t ever trying make that fight. The narrative always been that it was Bud/TR doing xyz to block the fight despite Spence literally being on record multiple times basically saying politics from his side put the fight on the back burner

 

[R=G]

These guys should have fought years ago so i won't hole my breath on it happening now. The politics in boxing is outrageous and it seems it's getting worse the past decade or so with top fighters avoiding/refusing to fight each other.

Definitely happens after Spence vs Ugas..would of been happened..the car accident changed everything.

 

[R=G]

More lies.. Spence has NEVER offered Bud a fight.. Spence has NEVER pursued a fight with Bud.. Spence told you his plan was to fight Bud LAST.. That back n forth about a purse split for a fight that isn't available was nothing but smoke in mirrors for stupid and blind nikkas to believe that was the hold up.. Bud can't reject a fight that isn't available to be made..

You claimed this strategy is a Haymon precedent.. and thats where you killed your own argument.. this can't be precedent because it's never happened before.. I asked you to show us an example of anther fighter moving like Spence and you failed to do so.
Bud fighting Pirter didn't bring us closer to the fight.. It just made Bud look like more of a risk and clearly the superior fighter to Spence.. and thats why you see Haymon and the PBC going into this Spence protection mode..

Superior? Lol.

 

[Reggie]

The problems is you have too many fans giving passes for fighters ducking and stalling out fights for years.. in this case you have a PBC representing straight up telling the world there is no money in making Spence vs Crawford and stupid nikkas believing the shyt.. going against their own common sense and defending it so as long as this continue we will continue to not get any fights we are demanding

Another issue is cats buying these mediocre fights that would be HBO Boxing After Dark status years ago.

 

[Champ_KW]

Have you ever heard a fighter in the history of boxing say they need to clean up an imaginary side before he can fight another champ.. Answer that question 1st before you give him the benefit of the doubt.. Especially seeing as though Bud left TR which killed the whole "side of street" excuse and they STILL made no attempt to make the fight...
Imagine Floyd telling the public he not fighting Manny until he collects every other belt or cleans up his side of the street.. Why are people excepting these bullshyt excuses from a ducking ass nikka?

Really whining about a unification fight for three belts that would make the Bud fight for undisputed and bigger?? Errol business been straight. Just cause Bud finally got some sense and left Bob, doesn't mean he get to call all the shots that were already made. It's like people don't remember Errol was fighting for 3 belts until the eye injury and Ugas took the fight and Manny's belt.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Really whining about a unification fight for three belts that would make the Bud fight for undisputed and bigger?? Errol business been straight. Just cause Bud finally got some sense and left Bob, doesn't mean he get to call all the shots that were already made. It's like people don't remember Errol was fighting for 3 belts until the eye injury and Ugas took the fight and Manny's belt.

Whining?? So you're just gonna ignore the original post where the PBC representative is telling you they not looking to make the Crawford Spence fight cause there's not enough money.. Not even looking to make Crawford an offer cause they don't wanna "insult" him?? And no Spence was not fighting for 3 belts when he backed out the Pacquiao fight cause he told a doctor "my eye hurt".. Here take this neg

 

[Champ_KW]

Whining?? So you're just gonna ignore the original post where the PBC representative is telling you they not looking to make the Crawford Spence fight cause there's not enough money.. Not even looking to make Crawford an offer cause they don't wanna "insult" him?? And no Spence was not fighting for 3 belts when he backed out the Pacquiao fight cause he told a doctor "my eye hurt".. Here take this neg

So let's try simple math here....Spence has 2 belts and Manny had 1 that he took from Thurman. How was that fight not for 3 belts?? Just like the Ugas fight is for....you guessed it....3 belts. So as a Bud fan boy, you don't want the biggest fight at Welterweight to be for UNDISPUTED? Only 6 fighters have ever been undisputed in the 4 belt era (Bud being 1) and you don't think that's the route this fight should take? And next time read your own article. Words have meaning. The entire article is about why the fight HASN'T happened. Not WON'T. You sound like a fan boy chasing behind a PBC guy that says IN THE ARTICLE, he's not a money guy while Arum told you himself he could build a mansion in Beverly Hills with the money he lost on Bud. He's wrong for repeating his own promoters sentiments?

 

[Black_Jesus]

So let's try simple math here....Spence has 2 belts and Manny had 1 that he took from Thurman. How was that fight not for 3 belts??

Because Manny got stripped by the WBA before they announced that fight between him and Spence..

Just like the Ugas fight is for....you guessed it....3 belts. So as a Bud fan boy, you don't want the biggest fight at Welterweight to be for UNDISPUTED?

I wouldn't give a fukk if the fight between Spence and Bud was for 3 belts or 0 belts and neither does any real boxing fan or casual .. Only Spence dikk riders are requiring the biggest fight at Welterweight be for undisputed because that allows Spence to continue his plan of ducking Bud for as long as possible.. But PBC already let the cat out the bag that they ain't aint looking to make this fight at all nor even give Bud an offer

The entire article is about why the fight HASN'T happened. Not WON'T.

“From a business standpoint, it’s a fight that might excite the fans and all the people out there yelling about pay-per-view and too much. They’re not buying it [Spence vs. Crawford] anyway. They’re not going to plop down any money to make it successful.

“They’re going to steal the fight, but they’re not going to support it on pay-per-view. The numbers won’t be enough to give him what he needs,” Smith said of Crawford. “Well, not necessarily what he needs. What he wants. I don’t know what that number is,


It’s too risky to make a fight between Crawford and Spence if you’re a promoter because Terence doesn’t have a proven track record on PPV."



You gotta be some kinda illiterate monkey if you can't see he's talking about a potential Spence vs Crawford fight.. Not why it hadn't happened yet.. It hadn't happened yet because fighting Bud was never apart of Sprints plans

 

[Champ_KW]

Because Manny got stripped by the WBA before they announced that fight between him and Spence..

I wouldn't give a fukk if the fight between Spence and Bud was for 3 belts or 0 belts and neither does any real boxing fan or casual .. Only Spence dikk riders are requiring the biggest fight at Welterweight be for undisputed because that allows Spence to continue his plan of ducking Bud for as long as possible.. But PBC already let the cat out the bag that they ain't aint looking to make this fight at all nor even give Bud an offer


“From a business standpoint, it’s a fight that might excite the fans and all the people out there yelling about pay-per-view and too much. They’re not buying it [Spence vs. Crawford] anyway. They’re not going to plop down any money to make it successful.

“They’re going to steal the fight, but they’re not going to support it on pay-per-view. The numbers won’t be enough to give him what he needs,” Smith said of Crawford. “Well, not necessarily what he needs. What he wants. I don’t know what that number is,


It’s too risky to make a fight between Crawford and Spence if you’re a promoter because Terence doesn’t have a proven track record on PPV."



You gotta be some kinda illiterate monkey if you can't see he's talking about a potential Spence vs Crawford fight.. Not why it hadn't happened yet.. It hadn't happened yet because fighting Bud was never apart of Sprints plans

So how did Ugas get a belt? He took the fight on 10 days notice. So before Spence pulled out, it wasn't a title fight and only became one within the 10 days?!?!?! And what are you, 12? What kinda person with a name Black Jesus start calling people monkeys over a boxing article? Wack names like Sprints and putting "hurt his eye" in quotations as if it wasn't real? Your whole energy is weird. I thought I was getting into a legit boxing conversation and ended up talking back and forth with someone with little to no self respect as a man riding for another man like this. Its kinda embarrassing. Arum is on record stating as late as this past summer that he wasn't trying to make a Spence fight in favor of a Taylor fight for Bud, so the reality is Spence was never in Bud's immediate plans



Yet here you are whining cause Spence is going after the belt he was on track to get before the injury, with the Bud fight on the horizon for undisputed. Now some random cat that stated in the article that he's not a money man with PBC opinion piece got your panties in a bunch to the point you're insufferable to go back and forth with.

 

[King P]

So how did Ugas get a belt?

Because Ugas was already the WBA regular champ. So when they stripped Manny due to inactivity, they elevated Ugas to Super champion

 

[Master Teacher]

Crawford first said he would accept the 60/40 split than renegged, that's why he's talking about the numbers not being there for Crawford to get what he wants, you still stanning

The fight then passed it's expiration date, it's Boots Ennis time

Crawford needs to fight him next, Spence was already scheduled to fight Ugas anyway, Boots is next line, regardless, it's the only fight available right now at 147

They wasted too much time, it's Boots division now, so they need to just fight him or vacate, because neither one of them can beat him