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Roger Sterling

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What are Huaso Isla's chances of playing as a starter breh?

In the beginning? Low. He's coming off that long-term knee injury and Conte's already shown he likes to ease players back in slowly (Quagliarella). Then there's the fact that he's new to the system and must adapt. Finally he'll be trying to break through into an established trio. Meanwhile he has a lot of very good competition at RB/RWB in Lichtsteiner and Caceres.

You never know though. Extra CL games, poor form of others, etc. He's quality though so I'm sure he'll get his chances. His characteristics are ideal for the team.
 

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At the end of the day if Scholes was Spanish or whatever he would have got lost in the system because he would have been one of thousands. Borja Valero status.

Nothing particularly impressive about him really. Even now. I'm supposed to marvel at 40 yard diagonals to Valencia 50x a game? Really? :upsetfavre:

He's no Lampard I'll tell you that much.
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If he played for West Ham instead of Man Utd, there wouldn't be any fuss about him. Man Utd players always get CRAZY hype and automatic selection for England (with great results, of course)
Also, a lot of the hype comes from the fact that he doesn't give away possession as cheaply as other English midfielders (hardly an accomplishment). That's what makes him stand out a bit. He's the best of a mediocre bunch and somehow English fans think that makes him "world class" (another overused word).
 

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It's no contest :yeshrug:
 

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If he played for West Ham instead of Man Utd, there wouldn't be any fuss about him. Man Utd players always get CRAZY hype and automatic selection for England (with great results, of course)
Also, a lot of the hype comes from the fact that he doesn't give away possession as cheaply as other English midfielders (hardly an accomplishment). That's what makes him stand out a bit. He's the best of a mediocre bunch and somehow English fans think that makes him "world class" (another overused word).

This explains why managers and players that faced him revere him.

English media hype. :heh:
 

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If we are going to say Lampard is better than Scholes then I will go to sleep.
 

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It's no contest :yeshrug:

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Scholes was still better technically.
:childplease: at playing in front of essien and makalele, :eat: good off setpieces and scoring fluky deflected goals your entire career.
Don't think ive ever heard anybody compare lampard to scholes.
 

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Might have something to do with Milan being pretty damned abysmal for two of those three years (the last of which he was injured for much of).
im not denying that, but he didnt help matters either.

then he came into that championship team and messed up their flow.

IT was good for he and Milan that he was let go, imo
 

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I can't stand by and let the great Frank Lampard be slandered. Equals at opposite ends of the spectrum, imo. If used properly, freeing up Lampard and giving Scholes essentially all the responsibility in the midfield beside a proper midfield sidekick who didn't have ADD and knew how to stay in the same place an England 4-2-3-1 featuring the two greatest English midfielders produced in a lifetime could've succeeded. Lampard allowed to frolic about and score critical deflected tap-ins, freed from all the responsibilty that an actual center midfielder holds. Would've been beautiful.
 

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This explains why managers and players that faced him revere him.

English media hype. :heh:

It goes something like this.

Day before big European game say Juventus/Madrid vs Utd:

English journo: Hey Zidane, we love Scholes. He's flipping great. We really love him. What do you think?

Zidane: Yeah, he's alright I suppose.

Headline next day: Zidane SPEAKS - Scholes is the best footballer of all time

You really believe all them players said that about the ginger twat :why:

"I'm not the best. Scholes is" ffs :pachaha:
 

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im not denying that, but he didnt help matters either.

then he came into that championship team and messed up their flow.

IT was good for he and Milan that he was let go, imo

- True enough. It worked two ways. He clearly needed a change of scenery (loss of motivation, perhaps) and Milan's system was very stagnant and not conducive to making the most of him.

- As I mentioned, Allegri clearly wasn't the one to bring out his best. He had clear ideas of how he wanted his midfield to work and they didn't involve using a regista.

- Best for Juve! :skip:
 

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"I tell anyone who asks me – Scholes is the best English player." [10]
Laurent Blanc, former teammate of Scholes and captain of France's 1998 World Cup winning squad

"Paul Scholes would have been one of my first choices for putting together a great team – that goes to show how highly I have always rated him. An all-round midfielder who possesses quality and character in abundance." [16]
Marcello Lippi,

"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder. Scholes is undoubtedly the greatest midfielder of his generation." [15]
Zinedine Zidane

“Out of everyone at Manchester United, I would pick out Scholes – he is the best midfielder of his generation. I would have loved to have played alongside him.” [36]
Pep Guardiola

“At Arsenal me and Patrick (Vieira) didn’t want to face Scholes. We would avoid him.” [43]
Emmanuel Petit

fukk WHATEVER you are saying. The people have spoken.
xavi and pirlo can put every medal out on the table, all these manchester united legends have is words. Its always the way from that club. Words. I wonder why they only fluked one european cup on penalties since giggs, scholes, keane and beckham are all these legend type players. Scholes had every chance to prove it to the world at international level and failed like the rest of them.
 

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To be honest Lampard is more of #10 with a tremendous work-rate. His game is all goals and assists rather than controlling it.

Lampard > Kaka for example is fair. But he can't be mentioned with the likes of Xavi.
 

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xavi and pirlo can put all every medal out on the table, all these manchester united legends have is words. Its always the way from that club. Words. I wonder why they only fluked one european cup on penalties since giggs, scholes, keane and beckham are all these legend type players. Scholes had every chance to prove it to the world at international level and failed like the rest of them.
they blame the coaches for England failures :bryan:
 
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