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Saw in the news that a Wayne Gretzky rookie card went for $1.3m
Honestly, that's probably low considering a Giannis went for $1.8 million recently. That Gretzky is an impossible grade and he's the hockey GOAT.
 

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Seriously?:stopitslime:.
This rise in prices is unreal. Nobody saw this coming. If you woulda bought a buncha Mahomes RCs when you were talking about it, you woulda made 10x your money right now.

There's investment groups going around and scooping up these really rare, ultra high end cards and driving prices through the roof.
 

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Would this likely be a poor time to start buying? Are the prices that high that they are bound to crash?

What about something like a Cmac rookie card? Worth it right now, or no?
 

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Would this likely be a poor time to start buying? Are the prices that high that they are bound to crash?

What about something like a Cmac rookie card? Worth it right now, or no?
All depends on what/who you're buying. Prices are here to stay, imo. There's too much money in it now, especially by investment groups gobbling up the high end market. It's a legit investment route now.

Christian McCaffrey? I would strongly advise against putting big money in RBs. Adrian Peterson's the best RB since Barry retired and his RCs aren't super expensive. There just isn't a lot of upside in NFL players outside of QBs.

Basketball's the safest to put money in because it has a global market and it's not just the top players who can have explosive prices. Baseball is REALLY prospect focused so it's the biggest crapshoot.
 

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@BucciMane I think the super high end/rare market is the smartest place to spend right now. I don't know your finances but cards like these are only going to gain in value, possibly really quickly:

1997 Metal Universe Precious Metal Gems PMG Green Barry Sanders /15 #162 PSA 7 | eBay

1997 Metal Universe Precious Metal Gems PMG Red Barry Sanders /150 #162 BGS 8.5 | eBay

1999 Metal Universe Precious Metal Gems PMG Barry Sanders /50 #175 BGS 9.5 GEM | eBay

1998 Metal Universe Precious Metal Gems PMG Barry Sanders /50 #20 BGS 9 MINT | eBay

That's just football wise. If you want a deeper explanation towards these really high end cards, just shoot me a message. You also need to be aware of trimmed cards, even in graded cases. There's a guy on the Blowout forums who does detective work for free (and quick).
 

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@Codeine Bryant are you cashing in on any of your Lukas? These prices are getting nutty before the season. :picard:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-Panini-Prizm-Blue-Ice-Luka-Doncic-ROOKIE-RC-99-280-PSA-10-GEM-MINT/143885667451?hash=item2180410c7b:g:MqMAAOSwaPFf1nvP&LH_Auction=1

There was another Color Blast auction of his that went higher than my LeBron. That just blows my mind.
Not yet. I don't think this is the peak of Lukamania. Prices are indeed nutty, and I don't see it calming down anytime soon.
The league/media push for this guy is very real. The public interest seems to grow larger by the day.

I need to take pics of my stuff though so I have them on my flickr for when the time comes. I'll throw them up in here when I get around to it.

In the meantime, here's two recent pickups:


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16 Studio Downtown is the best Downtown set, imo.
 

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All depends on what/who you're buying. Prices are here to stay, imo. There's too much money in it now, especially by investment groups gobbling up the high end market. It's a legit investment route now.
I’ve been hearing about and seeing this.

What do you make of it? You truly believe it’s here to stay? I’d like to hope so, obviously, seeing as how people like you and I are already invested. I do have legit concerns about this being a wildly unsustainable bubble.

Base prizm for Luka is approaching $2k again. BASE. That’s.... absurd. The print runs on these cards are monstrous. There’s a plethora of sets. Seems like there’s a dozen types of RPAs for every rookie the past several years, with multiple parallels to boot. Granted, only a few are true on card RPAs.

Truly feels like another junk wax era. Panini has absolutely flooded the market. With everything. Yet the supply still seems to fall short of the rabid demand, which is somewhat reassuring.

Idk breh. Guys like MJ, Bron, Kobe are definitely safe and sound investments. Even Curry and Durant and basically pre 2017ish RCs are reasonably printed and valued. But these past few years... sets on sets on sets, breh. The market saturation with Luka and Zion seems very real and medium key concerning for a Luka PCer such as myself.


And I 10000% agree. The place to put your money, finances permitting of course, is the high end market. Anything rare, SP, SSP, case hit, team color, numbered is the wave. I own a bit of Luka base and I don’t have the greatest medium-long term feeling about it.
 
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I’ve been hearing about and seeing this.

What do you make of it? You truly believe it’s here to stay? I’d like to hope so, obviously, seeing as how people like you and I are already invested. I do have legit concerns about this being a wildly unsustainable bubble.

Base prizm for Luka is approaching $2k again. BASE. That’s.... absurd. The print runs on these cards are monstrous. There’s a plethora of sets. Seems like there’s a dozen types of RPAs for every rookie the past several years, with multiple parallels to boot. Granted, only a few are true on card RPAs.

Truly feels like another junk wax era. Panini has absolutely flooded the market. With everything. Yet the supply still seems to fall short of the rabid demand, which is somewhat reassuring.

Idk breh. Guys like MJ, Bron, Kobe are definitely safe and sound investments. Even Curry and Durant and basically pre 2017ish RCs are reasonably printed and valued. But these past few years... sets on sets on sets, breh. The market saturation with Luka and Zion seems very real and medium key concerning for a Luka PCer such as myself.


And I 10000% agree. The place to put your money, finances permitting of course, is the high end market. Anything rare, SP, SSP, case hit, team color, numbered is the wave. I own a bit of Luka base and I don’t have the greatest medium-long term feeling about it.
The high population stuff...I'm still not sold on. I'll never be comfortable spending money like that on a Luka base. Just way too many of them out there. Of course, I didn't think they could get this high with a population like that. The Trout Update looks like a low pop card compared to Luka's Prizm. I don't know what to make of it but I'm still wary.

For actual rare cards or truly high end, I don't see it slowing down anytime soon. Too much money involved and there's a much higher collecting base now than back in the junk wax era. Cards never came close to these prices. MJ, LeBron and Kobe aren't ever declining unless the economy completely tanks. Brady applies as well for current players. Trout is almost there but he could still decline quickly and have it affect his prices.

Doncic and Mahomes are legit but both are still an injury away from it all falling apart. There's no gradual growth phase anymore. It's just high out the gate then to the moon. Zion's gonna explode if he has a hot start, which I think he will.
 

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All depends on what/who you're buying. Prices are here to stay, imo. There's too much money in it now, especially by investment groups gobbling up the high end market. It's a legit investment route now.

Christian McCaffrey? I would strongly advise against putting big money in RBs. Adrian Peterson's the best RB since Barry retired and his RCs aren't super expensive. There just isn't a lot of upside in NFL players outside of QBs.

Basketball's the safest to put money in because it has a global market and it's not just the top players who can have explosive prices. Baseball is REALLY prospect focused so it's the biggest crapshoot.

Yup. I stopped buying football boxes because like the league itself, football cards are QB driven.
 
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