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I’ve been wanting to get a couple of cards graded and my friend just said he’s sending some cards out to TAG and asked if I want in.

What’s the story with TAG? Is it respectable?
Should I waste my time or just send it in to PSA?
Don't waste your time or money. Only send to PSA. That's what's moving and fetching the best prices.
 

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I’ve been wanting to get a couple of cards graded and my friend just said he’s sending some cards out to TAG and asked if I want in.

What’s the story with TAG? Is it respectable?
Should I waste my time or just send it in to PSA?

I like a lot of what I'm hearing about TAG and their technology and I hope they're able to become a player in the future, but for now, yeah, stick with PSA.
 

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Got an offer one my Lamar Flawless Sapphire card today. Offered $5,500. Part of me wants to accept it, but I think I'm going to see how he does to start the season at a minimum. If I got offered $8,000+, then I'd probably take it right now, but I think I'll let it ride for now.
 

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A friend of mine was telling me how much money lost he has lost dealing with sports trading cards and he was giving me some pointers and gave me some good deals on the few cards he had remaining, it was depressing hearing him tell me his story. Just seems like now it's the wild wild west with sports cards, Sellers aren't setting the market buyers are. Cards are different from actual stock and it seems the only people who are really cashing out now are the card companies inflating the prices on some of these boxes.

These fly by night youtubers are going bankrupt doing breaks and trying to get subscribers breaking $5k-8k boxes is very sad.

I chase certain players instead of buying expensive boxes like now I'm in investing in some Jett Howard/Kobe Bufkin auto cards because I'm a huge UM superfan and they are flying under the radar. Also it seems Sam Howell is going into camp as the starter for my commanders so I have a few of his autos but I think Jacoby will end up starting more games than him this season.
 
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A friend of mine was telling me how much money lost he has lost dealing with sports trading cards and he was giving me some pointers and gave me some good deals on the few cards he had remaining, it was depressing hearing him tell me his story. Just seems like now it's the wild wild west with sports cards, Sellers aren't setting the market buyers are. Cards are different from actual stock and it seems the only people who are really cashing out now are the card companies inflating the prices on some of these boxes.

These fly by night youtubers are going bankrupt doing breaks and trying to get subscribers breaking $5k-8k boxes is very sad.

I chase certain players instead of buying expensive boxes like now I'm in investing in some Jett Howard/Kobe Bufkin auto cards because I'm a huge UM superfan and they are flying under the radar. Also it seems Sam Howell is going into camp as the starter for my commanders so I have a few of his autos but I think Jacoby will end up starting more games than him this season.
If he bought in at the 2021 highs, he got crushed.

I'm cautiously optimistic things might start creeping upwards again. Crypto going crazy and stocks printing money for people after the COVID low contributed a lot to the sports card boom and both are going up again.

Panini is not making it easy though. They have fukked the release schedule so bad, especially for basketball. Got one of the most hyped prospects of all-time coming into the NBA and who knows when Prizm will be out. They didn't release the 2022-23 version until the regular season was OVER. That, plus wax prices being outrageous are hurting the card market.

You used to be able to buy a box of Prizm for $100-150 and if you hit a Silver Prizm of a key rookie, make your money back. If it was a big time rookie, make much more than your money back. Now, you'd still be getting crushed in the same scenario.
 

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Im back into chasing some 2022 rookies numbered parallels/autos but theres too many parallels it feels like panini doubled them the last few years...
 

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Im back into chasing some 2022 rookies numbered parallels/autos but theres too many parallels it feels like panini doubled them the last few years...

Yeah I'm strictly 90's-2000's stuff at this point. Don't have the time to keep up Panini's nonsense.
 

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Yeah I'm strictly 90's-2000's stuff at this point. Don't have the time to keep up Panini's nonsense.

IM sniffing around the newer stuff cuz its what is hot and what makes money but ive noticed the number of parallels for prizm/optic sets has doubled the last few years....the non numbered stuff is like how base cards were treated a few years back...theres so much of it.
 

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I hate these mufukkas that jump in with 6 seconds left in an auction and jump the price from 200 to 375...
 

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If he bought in at the 2021 highs, he got crushed.

I'm cautiously optimistic things might start creeping upwards again. Crypto going crazy and stocks printing money for people after the COVID low contributed a lot to the sports card boom and both are going up again.

Panini is not making it easy though. They have fukked the release schedule so bad, especially for basketball. Got one of the most hyped prospects of all-time coming into the NBA and who knows when Prizm will be out. They didn't release the 2022-23 version until the regular season was OVER. That, plus wax prices being outrageous are hurting the card market.

You used to be able to buy a box of Prizm for $100-150 and if you hit a Silver Prizm of a key rookie, make your money back. If it was a big time rookie, make much more than your money back. Now, you'd still be getting crushed in the same scenario.
Yeah Panini has dropped the ball.

I saw this guy on Youtube who charges outrageous monthly subs to get into his group breaks on the what not app. He bought like a 3K hobby box and only made about $300 back, he looked like he wanted to cry. But that's the new card hustle, charge crazy prices for group breaks because a lot of newbies think they can get rich quick.

Cards should should be a side hustle thing but you got dudes taking their mortgage payments, taking out payday loans, maxing out their credit cards just to try to break even hoping they can sell their cards to make their money back. Some people made a lot of money in '20 when things exploded but the other side of the game is dirty..
I hate these mufukkas that jump in with 6 seconds left in an auction and jump the price from 200 to 375...
It's most likely some shill bidding going on with that.
 

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Yeah Panini has dropped the ball.

I saw this guy on Youtube who charges outrageous monthly subs to get into his group breaks on the what not app. He bought like a 3K hobby box and only made about $300 back, he looked like he wanted to cry. But that's the new card hustle, charge crazy prices for group breaks because a lot of newbies think they can get rich quick.

Cards should should be a side hustle thing but you got dudes taking their mortgage payments, taking out payday loans, maxing out their credit cards just to try to break even hoping they can sell their cards to make their money back. Some people made a lot of money in '20 when things exploded but the other side of the game is dirty..

It's most likely some shill bidding going on with that.
I never did breaks but it USED to be a good way for people to buy into high end products (like National Treasures when it was $500/box or Flawless at $1,000) or 8-16 box case breaks of Prizm, etc. Now, it's $1,000 for one box of Prizm and $5,000+ for NT/Flawless.

It's one thing to throw a few hundred bucks at a 16 box break of Select. It's another to do it for a single box.

Panini cut out all the small card shops too (Fanatics is doing the same) so it made boxes almost impossible for regular collectors to get. I used to get a box of Hobby Prizm at a shop out here. Once the boom happened, his allocation went down to next to nothing. Meanwhile, Blowout, DA, Steel City, Burbank and the other massive retailers were getting 95% of the product and jacking up prices 3-10x MSRP.
 

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Do yall think Fanatics take over will be more of the same or worse?
 
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