The Official Socialism/Democratic Socialism/Communism/Marxism Thread

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Give me one country where marxism has worked and has't turned into stalinism.
what makes a country stalinist? collectivized agriculture? surveilence state? secret police? oligarchy? dominant public sector? nationalized industry?

the application of marxism is very new and in very few cases has it been allowed to develop independent of geopolitical struggles. since marxism is not an ideology but instead a method of interpreting history, and by extension society, there is no one "marxism." the same way that you dont see the developing world being allowed to develop in the same way that europe and america were allowed to, the ideas of marxism have not been allowed to develop in the same way that capitalism was allowed to. the transition from king to president (feudalism to capitalism) is quite different from the transition of king to equal citizen (capitalism to socialism)
 

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where any of those written in the 21st century?
 
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TUH, you left out a few


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"that was the competitive wage system; and if Jurgis wanted to understand what socialism was, it was there he had best begin. The workers were dependent upon a job to exist from day to day, and so they bid against each other, and no man could get more than the lowest man would consent to work for. And thus the mass of the people were always in a life-and-death struggle with poverty."
-The Jungle



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Needs to be posted again:

"You can't talk about solving the economic problem of the Negro without talking about billions of dollars. You can't talk about ending the slums without first saying profit must be taken out of slums. You're really tampering and getting on dangerous ground because you are messing with folk then. You are messing with captains of industry.... Now this means that we are treading in difficult water, because it really means that we are saying that something is wrong... with capitalism.... There must be a better distribution of wealth and maybe America must move toward a democratic socialism."
 

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Capitalism uses force but it also educates the people to its system. Direct propaganda is carried out by those entrusted with explaining the inevitability of class society, either through some theory of divine origin or through a mechanical theory of natural selection. This lulls the masses since they see themselves as being oppressed by an evil against which it is impossible to struggle. Immediately following comes the hope of improvement — and in this, capitalism differed from the preceding caste systems, which offered no possibilities for advancement.

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