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IMO it’s better to build your way up doing jobs for free. Customers won’t get addicted to “free” but if you build a base on dirt cheap prices, they’ll just go elsewhere the day you try to raise your prices. That’s why what I do for people with small budgets is I offer them smaller projects. A one minute video for $150 is doable if the video is simple enough and the client is organized. I’m not doing an entire music video for $150. That’s nuts. You have to go after the right clients too. As much as I love music, indie “artists” (which most of the time are just arrogant hobbyists with no respect for anyone else’s craft) are often times the worst to deal with. That’s why I’ve been going after local businesses more and pitching them the idea of needing content to increase their visibility on social media which them leads to better opportunities to earn more paying clients. You have to sell your services in a way that gives them confidence that the content you create for them is investment and not just a random experiment where they are potentially just throwing away money.
For free is a good idea too. But people around here here have no problem with $300. I'm the cheapest around the way so all the new guys started hittin me up literally right after I dropped the first video. I have 4 lined up in the next 2 weeks. $300 is actually the base price it goes into more detail in my contract. I only work with quality artists. People that you can tell invested time and money into their music. I go to local talent and poetry shows to shoot as well. I am in the process of shooting a commercial for local business. It's actually a black owned restaurant; talented chefs. And I'm already pretty known for doing graphic design. I live in a big city. Most of these guys that want videos just want basic shyt shot anyway. My contract compensates for anything extravagant.

I disagree with people only workin with you because you're the cheapest. If you put out proven quality then you can charge more and people will pay
 

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For free is a good idea too. But people around here here have no problem with $300. I'm the cheapest around the way so all the new guys started hittin me up literally right after I dropped the first video. I have 4 lined up in the next 2 weeks. $300 is actually the base price it goes into more detail in my contract. I only work with quality artists. People that you can tell invested time and money into their music. I go to local talent and poetry shows to shoot as well. I am in the process of shooting a commercial for local business. It's actually a black owned restaurant; talented chefs. And I'm already pretty known for doing graphic design. I live in a big city. Most of these guys that want videos just want basic shyt shot anyway. My contract compensates for anything extravagant.

I disagree with people only workin with you because you're the cheapest. If you put out proven quality then you can charge more and people will pay
I didn't say this, or at least didn't mean to say it that way.
Of course I don't believe people will work with you just because you are the cheapest.
But a lot of people that want video or photos have no idea the work that goes into creating a quality product, so when hungry up and coming photographers come in with bottom of the barrel prices, clients interpret that as standard pricing and just look for the next hungry photographer if they don't like the price.
I'm really just talking about in my area, and I imagine is the case in a lot of other areas.
There's a lot of talent around here hungry for a shot a doing this full time.
On the other side is a very ignorant client base that assumes everything can be shot on an iphone or that a 5 minute video takes 5 minutes to shoot and edit.
It's a recipe for a really difficult market with very unfair demands.
In the end, like we all know, talent is what is going to set you apart, and as long as you have strong work ethic you can very much do this full time if you're patient.
 

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Got a beginner DSLR last year for a steal and have just started to think about taking pics with it. :heh:

I got to cop a decent tripod. Any suggestions?
 

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Got a beginner DSLR last year for a steal and have just started to think about taking pics with it. :heh:

I got to cop a decent tripod. Any suggestions?
Start out with the fundamentals like framing your images properly, and learn your camera settings. Get the basics down for exposure, once you understand how shutter speed, aperture and ISO work you'll know what you need to do with your camera to get the shots you want.

Don't rely on Auto Program, if you want to get the most out of your images, learn those 3 things and how they effect your images and then the rest is just practice.

Good luck. Honing your post processing and editing skills is also important, but I don't want to overwhelm you.
 

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Start out with the fundamentals like framing your images properly, and learn your camera settings. Get the basics down for exposure, once you understand how shutter speed, aperture and ISO work you'll know what you need to do with your camera to get the shots you want.

Don't rely on Auto Program, if you want to get the most out of your images, learn those 3 things and how they effect your images and then the rest is just practice.

Good luck. Honing your post processing and editing skills is also important, but I don't want to overwhelm you.

Rep for the advice.

Any suggestions for must have accessories or other items?
 

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Rep for the advice.

Any suggestions for must have accessories or other items?
I’d say go with the advice @GoldenGlove gave you before going crazy buying accessories. Learn your camera and how to get great shots. No point getting a bunch of accessories that may or may not be compatible with another camera. If you find you love this, you’ll eventually want to upgrade your whole camera. By then, you should have a better idea of what you actually need to get the shots you want.
 

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I’d say go with the advice @GoldenGlove gave you before going crazy buying accessories. Learn your camera and how to get great shots. No point getting a bunch of accessories that may or may not be compatible with another camera. If you find you love this, you’ll eventually want to upgrade your whole camera. By then, you should have a better idea of what you actually need to get the shots you want.

No doubt. I'm not trying to buy a whole bunch of stuff, just little common sense things to make the process easier. For example, I don't have a tripod. I plan to play with long exposure shots as well and having a good but very budget friendly one would help. Especially since, like you said, I would probably upgrade.

The camera I have (Canon T6) came with two basic lenses (18-55mm and 75-300mm). I read up on the best things to get for it and everybody suggested the "nifty fifty" lens. I just got it and it's literally like using a whole new camera compared to the lenses that came with it. It also forces me to get more comfortable with the manual settings.

I'm so far ahead price wise because I got the camera kit for $139 on a crazy clearance deal from Slickdeals. Even with the new lens, a cheap flash, and a couple of spare batteries, I've paid less than half of the cost of the camera that's on the shelves today.
 

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No doubt. I'm not trying to buy a whole bunch of stuff, just little common sense things to make the process easier. For example, I don't have a tripod. I plan to play with long exposure shots as well and having a good but very budget friendly one would help. Especially since, like you said, I would probably upgrade.

The camera I have (Canon T6) came with two basic lenses (18-55mm and 75-300mm). I read up on the best things to get for it and everybody suggested the "nifty fifty" lens. I just got it and it's literally like using a whole new camera compared to the lenses that came with it. It also forces me to get more comfortable with the manual settings.

I'm so far ahead price wise because I got the camera kit for $139 on a crazy clearance deal from Slickdeals. Even with the new lens, a cheap flash, and a couple of spare batteries, I've paid less than half of the cost of the camera that's on the shelves today.

master your equipment once you do then move up
 

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No doubt. I'm not trying to buy a whole bunch of stuff, just little common sense things to make the process easier. For example, I don't have a tripod. I plan to play with long exposure shots as well and having a good but very budget friendly one would help. Especially since, like you said, I would probably upgrade.

The camera I have (Canon T6) came with two basic lenses (18-55mm and 75-300mm). I read up on the best things to get for it and everybody suggested the "nifty fifty" lens. I just got it and it's literally like using a whole new camera compared to the lenses that came with it. It also forces me to get more comfortable with the manual settings.

I'm so far ahead price wise because I got the camera kit for $139 on a crazy clearance deal from Slickdeals. Even with the new lens, a cheap flash, and a couple of spare batteries, I've paid less than half of the cost of the camera that's on the shelves today.
Prime lenses are a must IMO and if you plan and staying with Canon you can’t go wrong investing in lenses. Even if you switched brands you could always get an adapter. Glass is always a good choice when looking for upgrades.
 

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Prime lenses are a must IMO and if you plan and staying with Canon you can’t go wrong investing in lenses. Even if you switched brands you could always get an adapter. Glass is always a good choice when looking for upgrades.

canon lenses and cameras hold their value as well
I bought the 85mm 1.8 for like 320
and i could still get like 280 for it on ebay

even a old ass canon t1i with the kit lens goes for like 175-200 on ebay

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