The Official Netflix Marvel's "Iron Fist" Thread

[Clark Wayne]

Yeah I do agree that the episode count can be shortened from 13 to maybe 12 or even 10. That's one complaint I do agree with.

I'm interested to see how the Defenders is with it only being 8 episodes.

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

I think it's a very valid complaint using this cac if it feels like cultural appropriation.

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Oh it's kind of weird about how defensive some of you are getting about this

 

[Bryan Danielson]

I dont think ep count determine the quality. The story is the story, just because it goes to 8-10 dont mean its gonna dramatically improve.

The OA only had 8 eps and I dont think that shyt would've been worse with 3 more, I dont think it was great with 8. I think that shyt wouldve been what it was regardless.... mediocre.

Barring when shows starting doing shyt like having musicals or etc I dont really see alot of drop off from these so called "fillers"

Martha

 

[Bryan Danielson]

I think I'm starting to agree.... the White character Danny Rand Iron Fist shouldve been Asian or Brazilian or Black

But now I'm thinking about this cast

Maybe Black Panther shouldve been Central American

Wakanda shouldve been Panama

Dont support Luke Cage, dont support BLACK 24 lead, niccas wont even support yet alone acknowledge Morris Chestnuts ROSEWOOD but complain about diversity brehs

Martha

 

[Woodrow]

For the first question: You make a star. You don't need to get a top actor at this point because the brand sells itself and you turn someone into a star.

For your second question, context matters. There's a reason Danny Rand was creating as a white guy during that period and it had everything to do with them being about creating a main character who wasn't a white male while at the same time wanting to hop on the Bruce Lee train. So they made Danny their version of Kung Fu, the white guy who's taught by asians and masters martial arts better than them, because that's what the politics and societal norms at the time told them they had to do. It's possible to do something different now and get away from the admittedly touchy racial issues of the mid 70s. There's a reason Neal Adams created Jon Stewart and it wasn't just because he thought it'd be fun. He wanted to make a statement.

That said, I'm not against what they did with making Danny a white guy. But I understand those who feel like it wasn't the right move

the immortal iron fist's first appearance was in 1974. that's one year after the first appearance of shang chi, master of kung fu, who got his own title in 1974. that title ran until 1983. of the two characters, shang chi was the title that benefitted from the bruce lee craze. iron fist was the one marvel had to reinvent to avoid cancellation. that's how he ended up being paired with luke cage.

 

[MartyMcFly]

the immortal iron fist's first appearance was in 1974. that's one year after the first appearance of shang chi, master of kung fu, who got his own title in 1974. that title ran until 1983. of the two characters, shang chi was the title that benefitted from the bruce lee craze. iron fist was the one marvel had to reinvent to avoid cancellation. that's how he ended up being paired with luke cage.

That makes sense from a publication standpoint but you're saying there's no correlation between the two?

 

[Woodrow]

That makes sense from a publication standpoint but you're saying there's no correlation between the two?

of course not. just pointing out there might be more to it.

 

[MartyMcFly]

of course not. just pointing out there might be more to it.

Word. You're right tho.

I was looking more at the social context of it and them doing what everyone did which was getting in on the kung fu craze in anyway they could.

 

[detroitwalt]

I could give a shyt either way but a lot of cats are trying to either troll or just flat out sounding an awful like racists in any comment section with that "maybe they should make Black Panther (insert random nationality/race)" bullshyt.

 

[pete clemenza]

Real talk they should've just done Power Man & Iron Fist as one show instead of each getting their own show. It would be Starsky & Hutch on steroids, plus with 13 episodes you have plenty of time for their origins and team up

 

[CrownHeights]

Real talk they should've just done Power Man & Iron Fist as one show instead of each getting their own show. It would be Starsky & Hutch on steroids, plus with 13 episodes you have plenty of time for their origins and team up

I suspect after Luke and Fist finish their own shows the eventual team up will happen. Lets hope so.

 

[pete clemenza]

I suspect after Luke and Fist finish their own shows the eventual team up will happen. Lets hope so.

Some of these characters might be played out by then. If The Defenders ain't all that then might have to start over from stretch. You can't turn every B level superhero into a franchise. They were on to something with the first season of Daredevil but now these Netflix/Marvel shows are mostly 50% filler episodes

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Some of these characters might be played out by then. If The Defenders ain't all that then might have to start over from stretch. You can't turn every B level superhero into a franchise. They were on to something with the first season of Daredevil but now these Netflix/Marvel shows are mostly 50% filler episodes

But thats the thing though.... you really dont know. I bet you if 10 years ago yet alone 5, if someone asked peeps if they wanna see a comic book movie with a talking Rac00n and talking tree that only says one thing. Peeps wouldve screamed HELL NO emphatically and laughed/trolled the shyt out of you!

And in regards to franchise. These cats werent even B level superheroes, at best they were D and C level hereos and if they get upgraded to B or youre acknowledging they are B level now, well then hell they already won HALF THE BATTLE!

Martha

 

[nieman]

I suspect after Luke and Fist finish their own shows the eventual team up will happen. Lets hope so.

I think they're definitely gonna merge some of these shows. Daredevil will prob stick around, Jessica Jones maybe since that's a different tone and they can go in different directions with the PI ish, but Iron Fist definitely gonna latch on to another...prob Luke Cage. Punisher prob gets 1 season. The Defenders leads into Heroes for Hire starring the rest.

Interesting that they haven't released info on the next hero, so they'll prob just stick with these for a while.