The Official Netflix Marvel's "Iron Fist" Thread

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I'm just happy Luke Cage ain't gonna be the worst Marvel/Netflix show anymore, even though LC was real good until [REDACTED FOR SPOILERS] died.

It's sounding like the showrunner really didn't give a fukk about the source material.
 
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I told yo ass, Marvel :ufdup:

The fact they didnt cast an Asian lead is going to make the critics go 10x harder on this joint.


Yep.

Marvel REALLY did themselves no favors pushing the white savior and master of ASIAN martial arts techniques.

It's almost short sighted to the point of arrogance. They got away with it in Dr. Strange, but even then there was pretty sizeable backlash. Also Marvel should've learned from The Gods Of Egypt debacle that audiences are TIRED of shoehorning white saviors where they don't belong. The Netflix bunch has THREE Lilly white heroes including a white woman (Daredevil, Punisher, Jessica Jones) they don't need a 4th
 

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Yep.

Marvel REALLY did themselves no favors pushing the white savior and master of ASIAN martial arts techniques.

It's almost short sighted to the point of arrogance. They got away with it in Dr. Strange, but even then there was pretty sizeable backlash. Also Marvel should've learned from The Gods Of Egypt debacle that audiences are TIRED of shoehorning white saviors where they don't belong. The Netflix bunch has THREE Lilly white heroes including a white woman (Daredevil, Punisher, Jessica Jones) they don't need a 4th

...Danny Rand Has ALWAYS BEEN WHITE... :mindblown: Do y'all muthfukkas read comics or not???
 
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...Danny Rand Has ALWAYS BEEN WHITE... :mindblown: Do y'all muthfukkas read comics or not???


I know he's always been white.

At one point so was Nick Fury

The point is that the very basis of Iron Fist is based upon egregious cultural appropriation. NOBODY with any common sense wants to see a white boy being the master of an ancient Asian martial arts technique in 2017. Marvel had a chance to address and right this wrong by casting an Asian actor, thereby adding a fresh dose of diversity amongst the Defenders lineup. Instead they chose to go by the source material.... and are rightfully being called to task for it
 

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:francis: Well, early previews are up and it's not looking good.

Shouldn't be too surprised since the show runner for this is the same guy behind the last couple of seasons of Dexter which everyone seems to hate.


Netflix's Iron Fist Previews
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/rev...source=twitter

After the successes of 'Daredevil,' 'Jessica Jones' and 'Luke Cage,' Marvel and Netflix have their first big misstep

http://www.polygon.com/tv/2017/3/8/1...on-fist-review

Iron Fist is not the strongest of its siblings, but team dynamics being what they are, it’ll no doubt benefit from the association. There will be plenty of folks out there who watch the show to keep up with the overall plot of the Marvel Netflix shows, and to see how Iron Fist presumably sets up for The Defenders later this year. Unfortunately, I can’t say at the moment that there are other reasons to binge.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/03/...ves-way-review

Marvel's Iron Fist starts off sluggishly, seeming far more like a soap opera than a superhero series, complete with bland, pretty, rich people sneering and scheming over family fortunes.

http://variety.com/2017/tv/reviews/m...es-1202004027/

“Marvel’s Iron Fist” is deadly — in all the wrong ways.

Quite a few dramas in the streaming arena have pacing problems, and even Netflix’s better Marvel programs have displayed an affinity for contrived, time-killing subplots. But “Iron Fist” is the most frustrating and ferociously boring example of Netflix Drift in some time.
I'll wait till it's nearer the time to read up other reviews but anyone that first saw the trailers just said meh and that has been the feeling all the way through. Given how :mjpls: were jonesing so hard for this the 1st Monday of LC being available this brings a big:smugfavre: to my face. However this is the last thing marvel/netflix needed. Netflix is pumping ish daily so releases like this don't feel like events anymore, I have not felt the space between this and LC at all that's a bad sign.

I liked LC but many thought it stunk another stinker and the momentum going into defenders will be all but gone
 

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...Danny Rand Has ALWAYS BEEN WHITE... :mindblown: Do y'all muthfukkas read comics or not???

This lame frame of thought is exactly why this shyt is going to crash and burn. I've read/heard several creative work around that could work.

Like for example they could of made him and Asian kid that for adapted by some weathly CACs. Or change the race of one of his parents and make him half white and half Asian.
Marvel has plenty of talent and creative writers to formulate a good enough work around for that outdated white man learns karate and kicks all the asians' asses trope :comeon:

Read one review and they said that every episode was laced with that CAC appropriating Asian Culture nonsense :smh:
 

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I know he's always been white.

At one point so was Nick Fury

The point is that the very basis of Iron Fist is based upon egregious cultural appropriation. NOBODY with any common sense wants to see a white boy being the master of an ancient Asian martial arts technique in 2017. Marvel had a chance to address and right this wrong by casting an Asian actor, thereby adding a fresh dose of diversity amongst the Defenders lineup. Instead they chose to go by the source material.... and are rightfully being called to task for it

Look having him been chinese would have felt fake as fukk to me. there's nothing wrong with him knowing martial arts... and he isnt THEE master of martial arts he is A master... one of the masters meaning plural. I dont like the fact that he doesnt look like Iron fist to me... He doesnt even looks like he works out... :heh: if you a master of martial arts i expect you to look the part if you been training and fighting your entire life. So Marvel fukked up on that... :heh:

Also Shang Chi is gonna be involved in this series anyways plus he's chinese... :ehh:

I dont understand what's the problem. bruce wayne traveled all around asia learning every fighting style he could no one gives him shyt because he's white... He's the fukking batman...:bryan:

Oh but iron fist could have been asian, :troll: Why does he NEED to be white.
 

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I don't think the problem with the show is him being white. I think they just got the wrong actor and show runner for it.

I think if they would have managed to get Ryan Phillipe and maybe Gareth Evans it would turn out good.

Also the show runner for this is behind Inhumans as well:francis:
 
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This lame frame of thought is exactly why this shyt is going to crash and burn. I've read/heard several creative work around that could work.

Like for example they could of made him and Asian kid that for adapted by some weathly CACs. Or change the race of one of his parents and make him half white and half Asian.
Marvel has plenty of talent and creative writers to formulate a good enough work around for that outdated white man learns karate and kicks all the asians' asses trope :comeon:

Read one review and they said that every episode was laced with that CAC appropriating Asian Culture nonsense :smh:

Let's see how the series turns out first.. :dahell: I'm a very harsh critic and if it's garbage I will call it garbage...

Why is Iron Fist being white such a problem... no one complained about it on the spiderman cartoon?!?! He's always been white!!!:mindblown:
 

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...Danny Rand Has ALWAYS BEEN WHITE... :mindblown: Do y'all muthfukkas read comics or not???
Everyone knows that.
The point of not casting a white guy to play Danny Rand is the same reason people were annoyed about the Dr. Strange casting...it is yet another story of a white savior from The West rolling into an Asian community and becoming the Chosen One who is better at a thing that is a way of life for this 100% minority civilization.
So to avoid that criticism they could have just hired any American Asian actor in Hollywood right now instead of the whitest white guy on the planet.
 

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Look having him been chinese would have felt fake as fukk to me. there's nothing wrong with him knowing martial arts... and he isnt THEE master of martial arts he is A master... one of the masters meaning plural. I dont like the fact that he doesnt look like Iron fist to me... He doesnt even looks like he works out... :heh: if you a master of martial arts i expect you to look the part if you been training and fighting your entire life. So Marvel fukked up on that... :heh:

Also Shang Chi is gonna be involved in this series anyways plus he's chinese... :ehh:

I dont understand what's the problem. bruce wayne traveled all around asia learning every fighting style he could no one gives him shyt because he's white... He's the fukking batman...:bryan:

Oh but iron fist could have been asian, :troll: Why does he NEED to be white.
Bruh, Danny Rand isn't "one of many" and he was never called "the master of martial arts"...what he is though is a lily white dude from NYC who rolls into a fantasy Shaw Brothers city full of kung-fu proficient Asian people and does the one thing none of the kung-fu proficient Asian people in that city has been able to do for centuries...defeat the dragon Shou-Lao the Undying and become The Iron Fist.
 

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Let's see how the series turns out first.. :dahell: I'm a very harsh critic and if it's garbage I will call it garbage...

Why is Iron Fist being white such a problem... no one complained about it on the spiderman cartoon?!?! He's always been white!!!:mindblown:

The only people that have a problem with him NOT being Asian are (mostly) old white comic stans that refuse to see the medium progress outside them stank ass comic shops.

Not only that, but you've got a strong climate of progression getting stifled in this country and Iron First just happens to me the poster boy OG of white privilege.

Long story short, people just tired of the same old shyt :manny: . I'm personally all for diversifying the line up because again, that shyt is old and tired and really is a fukking embarrassment in 2017.
 

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This is hard to believe lol...why wouldn't marvel just make a martial arts series

They kept Danny Rand white, so to counter the complaints about him not being Asian and being a "cultural appropriator" they refrained from making it a Martial's Art show. I'm hearing you get more action with Coleen Wing than do you with him.
 
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