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Jon being purposefully set up is completely ludicrous, UFC did great PPV numbers from DC vs Jones. It did better than even they expected, Jon up until this shyt was their second biggest attraction behind Conor. There's no incentive whatsoever in that, who benefits? Jon sure as hell doesn't, the UFC loses a superstar in his prime so they don't.
AKA and Daniels team benefit.
 

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So they're saying newer tests for turnibol have a longer detection window than before, so that's presumably the reason he passed several tests out of competition, but only failed during the weigh in.

He was probably relying on a masking agent for several months, and never expected the turnibol to be detectable by the time he had his post weigh in test. Several MLB players recently popped for this roid for this very reason.
 

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The outcome gets overturned possibly but that's it.
but then jon is suspended for 4 years and DC can reign until retirement. It erases Jon from history and puts DC in the p4p spot.

carl lewis tried the same shyt on Ben after his 5th loss. He had someone taint Ben's beer.
 

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but then jon is suspended for 4 years and DC can reign until retirement. It erases Jon from history and puts DC in the p4p spot.

carl lewis tried the same shyt on Ben after his 5th loss. He had someone taint Ben's beer.
So you think AKA and DC conspired to taint Jon Jones somehow?
 

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So you think AKA and DC conspired to taint Jon Jones somehow?
Yea, that's my theory. I think it happened during the weigh ins, while everyone was out there, someone in the back sprinkled a grinded pill in something. This screams Carl Lewis style.

His agent is blaming a supplement, but Jon used all his supplements prior, was tested, and yet nothing showed. So how does it magically show the night after the weigh ins, when he's using the same supplements?

Only thing that changes is that he brought them to Cali and left them unattended there.
 

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So they're saying newer tests for turnibol have a longer detection window than before, so that's presumably the reason he passed several tests out of competition, but only failed during the weigh in.

He was probably relying on a masking agent for several months, and never expected the turnibol to be detectable by the time he had his post weigh in test. Several MLB players recently popped for this roid for this very reason.

:ohhh:
 

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I also read something about how turinabol can be hard to detect in general, and that if someone had just recently cut weight, that (for some physiological reasons that I don't understand) turinabol would be easier to spot if tested for after several processes that happen with the body during a weight cut.

It was a scientist and he was basically saying it's not a surprise at all that he would pass several tests that month and then fail the one after weigh-ins.

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"Analytical chemist here.
Actually there are a bunch of plausible reasons why the earlier tests might not have caught the turabinol, none of them require JJ to take it on the eve of the fight.


The most obvious one is that the labs may have used different test methods. USADA doesn’t have one (1) lab that they send all their samples to. Some of the long-lasting metabolites of turabinol are hard to detect, and not all labs are equipped to find them. Other reasons may have to do with the weight cut and the way it affects masking agents and the concentration of turabinol metabolites in JJs system."
 

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So you think AKA and DC conspired to taint Jon Jones somehow?
IMO that just requires a massive leap in logic.

Again, I apply Ocham's Razor to most things. In absence of more evidence, the simplest explanation is the most plausible.

This theory requires that DC and AKA would be willing to risk their entire careers, as well as possible serious legal ramifications in order to do this. It requires Jones and his team to leave their stuff unattended, and it requires that DC and AKA would have been able to spike something they know he would drink. Plus a half a dozen other things would need to happen for this to be possible.

For Jones to have actually cheated, all he would have had to do is decide that it was worth it to take a PED. That's it. And this is a guy that has demonstrated that he makes questionable decisions fairly often.

I know it seems like I'm hating on Jones, but I'm just disappointed as a fan of his and of MMA.
 

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If you asked me which is these was the most likely to happen this week:
- Brian Stann leaves commentary for Real Estate after becoming one of the better commentators the UFC has.
- Jon Jones pops AGAIN and on a scheduled drug test after beating 7 random tests
- Conor McGregor gets smoked by Floyd Mayweather

...I'd say Conor getting smoked by a long shot. This is shaping up as one of the worst weeks for the UFC and MMA in general ever. UFC needs to rush out and get Tenshin Nasukawa and start building him into the future star they'll be needing.
 

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How have they ruined the sport if they wanna keep fighters safe and fights as fair as possible? Its easy to say this as a fan but imagine if you were a fighter yourself competing against a fighter on PEDs.. you'd think it was unfair - your opponent comes into the fight more ripped than you because hes had more time to train (because PEDs = shorter recovery time from exercise) , hes got more energy than you .. its just all around unfair. It benefits guys like Jones more because he trains a lot.

Its also unsafe for the user because especially in combat sports you should know that using PEDs can put you at risk of internal bleeding (particularly your brain) and it fukks up your liver. Yeah yall may not like it but its for Jones' own good that hes suspended (IF HE USED IT).. last thing we wanna hear in the future is another athlete dying from liver/heart failure
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