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[Roman Brady]

IMO he's always given off traits of a sociopath as well as narcissistic personality disorder.

The way he was making it seem like he was the victim when he hit that pregnant lady with his car? A lot of his behavior on the Rogan podcast was strange.

This is 100% gossip and feel free to not attach any weight to it, but I have trained at MMA gyms for over a decade, and I've heard a handful of stories about Jones of him being...I would say 'cruel to other people' is probably the best word. Take that for what it's worth. I'm a total stranger on the internet, but I've heard some fukked up stories about the dude from people that I trust that have trained with him.

If these stories are true I guess the piece of shyt is about to get what he deserves

 

[Roman Brady]

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[LinusCaldwell]

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[puppetmaster]

IMO he's always given off traits of a sociopath as well as narcissistic personality disorder.

The way he was making it seem like he was the victim when he hit that pregnant lady with his car? A lot of his behavior on the Rogan podcast was strange.

This is 100% gossip and feel free to not attach any weight to it, but I have trained at MMA gyms for over a decade, and I've heard a handful of stories about Jones of him being...I would say 'cruel to other people' is probably the best word. Take that for what it's worth. I'm a total stranger on the internet, but I've heard some fukked up stories about the dude from people that I trust that have trained with him.

Yea rumors of him being considerably rougher on trainer partners he doesn't know has made rounds at the academy here too, you almost tend dismiss that stuff as gym talk but where there's smoke . ..

what a mess.

 

[BlackManLiveFromLondon]

USADA ruined the UFC. Introducing real drug testing to an individual sport modeled after the fukking WWE is the most retarded shyt ever. I don't care that Jones uses roids (they all do, including Cormier), I just want to see him fight. fukk .

How have they ruined the sport if they wanna keep fighters safe and fights as fair as possible? Its easy to say this as a fan but imagine if you were a fighter yourself competing against a fighter on PEDs.. you'd think it was unfair - your opponent comes into the fight more ripped than you because hes had more time to train (because PEDs = shorter recovery time from exercise) , hes got more energy than you .. its just all around unfair. It benefits guys like Jones more because he trains a lot.

Its also unsafe for the user because especially in combat sports you should know that using PEDs can put you at risk of internal bleeding (particularly your brain) and it fukks up your liver. Yeah yall may not like it but its for Jones' own good that hes suspended (IF HE USED IT).. last thing we wanna hear in the future is another athlete dying from liver/heart failure

 

[morris]

How have they ruined the sport if they wanna keep fighters safe and fights as fair as possible? Its easy to say this as a fan but imagine if you were a fighter yourself competing against a fighter on PEDs.. you'd think it was unfair - your opponent comes into the fight more ripped than you because hes had more time to train (because PEDs = shorter recovery time from exercise) , hes got more energy than you .. its just all around unfair. It benefits guys like Jones more because he trains a lot.

Its also unsafe for the user because especially in combat sports you should know that using PEDs can put you at risk of internal bleeding (particularly your brain) and it fukks up your liver. Yeah yall may not like it but its for Jones' own good that hes suspended (IF HE USED IT).. last thing we wanna hear in the future is another athlete dying from liver/heart failure

I agree wholeheartedly they should all be banned and by they I mean ped users. But in Combat Sports that means absolutely nothing if the person has better skill.

Case in point: Oscar De La Hoya vs Fernando Vargas. Vargas came into that fight ripped and muscular and was caught on steroids but still was knocked out.

 

[Northern Son]

How have they ruined the sport if they wanna keep fighters safe and fights as fair as possible? Its easy to say this as a fan but imagine if you were a fighter yourself competing against a fighter on PEDs.. you'd think it was unfair - your opponent comes into the fight more ripped than you because hes had more time to train (because PEDs = shorter recovery time from exercise) , hes got more energy than you .. its just all around unfair. It benefits guys like Jones more because he trains a lot.

Its also unsafe for the user because especially in combat sports you should know that using PEDs can put you at risk of internal bleeding (particularly your brain) and it fukks up your liver. Yeah yall may not like it but its for Jones' own good that hes suspended (IF HE USED IT).. last thing we wanna hear in the future is another athlete dying from liver/heart failure

First of all they're already all on steroids. Roids have been a big part of the sport since UFC 1 in 1993 (see Ken Shamrock). Secondly, no one has died from a steroid induced Kamehameha , PED's are primarily for recovery, stamina and better preparation (the roid Anderson Silva popped for helped him get lean and tehrefore able to cut to 185 lbs easier) not necessarily for brute strength.

The sport was never clean, and never will be, plenty of guys smarter than Jones (like McGregor and Tyron Woodley) are on expensive designer roids that are years ahead of the tests and have their cycles LOCKED in. Top guys will always use, only thing now is less wealthy fighters and talented but stupid fighters like Jones are going to get pulled from events and remain out of action for several years. Some guys are more vulnerable now like Weidman who just gave up on roiding and is now getting brutally KO'd left and right by other roided guys he would have been competitive with pre-USADA. It's a sport killer. Rugby, NFL, boxing and any other contact sport you may enjoy would all die horrible deaths under the USADA deal - FACT.

 

[BlackManLiveFromLondon]

I agree wholeheartedly they should all be banned and by they I mean ped users. But in Combat Sports that means absolutely nothing if the person has better skill.

Case in point: Oscar De La Hoya vs Fernando Vargas. Vargas came into that fight ripped and muscular and was caught on steroids but still was knocked out.

Yeah and look at the punchers De La Hoya was giving him.. its not just a danger to the opponent but to the fighter themselves. PEDs put you more at risk of blood clots and liver problems.. now imagine a fighter on PEDs taking a lot of shots to the head, that fighter is at risk

Of course it means nothing if the person has more skill but what if you're even or you're up against a Jon Jones?

 

[Northern Son]

Yeah and look at the punchers De La Hoya was giving him.. its not just a danger to the opponent but to the fighter themselves. PEDs put you more at risk of blood clots and liver problems.. now imagine a fighter on PEDs taking a lot of shots to the head, that fighter is at risk

Of course it means nothing if the person has more skill but what if you're even or you're up against a Jon Jones?

You'll never reach a Jon Jones off PED's. Clean fighters peak at the Nick Diaz level.

 

[The axe murderer]

IMO he's always given off traits of a sociopath as well as narcissistic personality disorder.

The way he was making it seem like he was the victim when he hit that pregnant lady with his car? A lot of his behavior on the Rogan podcast was strange.

This is 100% gossip and feel free to not attach any weight to it, but I have trained at MMA gyms for over a decade, and I've heard a handful of stories about Jones of him being...I would say 'cruel to other people' is probably the best word. Take that for what it's worth. I'm a total stranger on the internet, but I've heard some fukked up stories about the dude from people that I trust that have trained with him.

What were the storiesi? Won't be hard to believe

 

[LinusCaldwell]

Jon Jones says he doesn't even train with randoms because he doesn't wanna get involved with people trying to make a name off of him... so that must have been very early on

 

[curz]

You'll never reach a Jon Jones off PED's. Clean fighters peak at the Nick Diaz level.

So Cormier isn't clean?

 

[Northern Son]

So Cormier isn't clean?

Probably not, he had a low T/E ratio and is a 38 year old with kidney issues who's somehow competitive with a juiced up Jon Jones. He's also competed in the Olympics (roids everywhere). Remember when everyone assumed Anderson was clean because of his physique and fighting style?

I think less than a quarter of current and former UFC champions got there clean.

 

[curz]

Probably not, he had a low T/E ratio and is a 38 year old with kidney issues who's somehow competitive with a juiced up Jon Jones. He's also competed in the Olympics (roids everywhere). Remember when everyone assumed Anderson was clean because of his physique and fighting style?

I think less than a quarter of current and former UFC champions got there clean.

I wouldnt doubt Cormier roided in the past but I really couldnt see him being a stupid cocky jackass like Jon and roiding right now.

 

[jackswstd]

Jon being purposefully set up is completely ludicrous, UFC did great PPV numbers from DC vs Jones. It did better than even they expected, Jon up until this shyt was their second biggest attraction behind Conor. There's no incentive whatsoever in that, who benefits? Jon sure as hell doesn't, the UFC loses a superstar in his prime so they don't.