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I don't Silva is getting it, but I'd love to see him take his belt back. As far as I'm concerned he's still the MW champ.
Dude, he lost decisively to Weidman TWICE...He failed to finish Bisping, even though I think He won that fight...It tells me that Silva is not on a higher level anymore...He still thinks that he can finish any fight at any time, that is why he doesn't care about winning rounds, but the truth is he can't...

He is just as likely to get KOd by his opponent than to KO his opponent...Plus, I think the other Top 5 MWs are physically stronger than he is...
 

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Dude, he lost decisively to Weidman TWICE...He failed to finish Bisping, even though I think He won that fight...It tells me that Silva is not on a higher level anymore...He still thinks that he can finish any fight at any time, that is why he doesn't care about winning rounds, but the truth is he can't...

He is just as likely to get KOd by his opponent than to KO his opponent...Plus, I think the other Top 5 MWs are physically stronger than he is...

He didn't lose decisively. He lost the first match by being cocky and fukking around and he lost the 2nd match by breaking his leg :comeon:

You're acting like Weidman was giving him the beats or something:camby:

You probably think Matt Hamill decisively beat Jon Jones too :scust:
 

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He didn't lose decisively. He lost the first match by being cocky and fukking around and he lost the 2nd match by breaking his leg :comeon:
He fought the same way he always fights and got SLUMPED...If Silva punches or kicks an OPP and breaks a bone, and the fight is stopped, then he won decisively, if the same is done to him, then he lost decisively...

One way of winning an MMA fight is by causing injury that requires immediate medical attention...Kenny Florian cut Chris Lieben's eyebrow, and won the fight because the Doctor believed the blood in Lieben's eyes will blind him and put him in danger...It is a part of the game...

I am not making this statements from an "anti-Silva" perspective, I am just giving Chris Weidman the credit he deserved...He practiced that kick check, and he used it to his advantage...

If it was a street fight, Silva would be in SERIOUS trouble...That is why I believe Weidman beat him DECISIVELY on both occasions...If Silva had broken his leg without making contact with Weidman, then I would NOT make this argument...

Weidman DIRECTLY caused Silva's injury, he deserves FULL CREDIT

You're acting like Weidman was giving him the beats or something:camby:
He didn't need to do...He won both fights EASILY...Just like Conor put Aldo to sleep in 13 seconds...He didn't need to beat him up...

You probably think Matt Hamill decisively beat Jon Jones too :scust:
The Jones vs Hamill fight is not even the same...Jones made an illegal move, Matt was asked if he wanted to continue, He bytched out and said "No" because he knew he had NOTHING for Jones...

If it was a street fight, there would be NO referee to save Matt Hamill...He lost that FIGHT, but Jones didn't win the GAME because he broke the rules...

Also, I already stated that Silva won the fight against Bisping, but Bisping won the game...Again, if that was a street fight, Bisping would be in LETHAL trouble by the way Silva left him SLUMPED with that flying knee...

This is how I understand MMA for MYSELF...There is the FIGHT aspect and the GAME aspect of the sport...Sometimes a fighter wins both, and sometimes a fight wins one of the two...

The only question I ask myself when judging fights is "If this what taking place on the street, who would get the WORST of the exchanges?"

Being an Anderson Silva fan, I used to dismiss Weidman's victories, until I started asking myself "If these two guys were on the street, who would be more likely to stay standing?" The answer is CLEARLY Weidman...First he KOd dude then he broke dude...
 

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He didn't lose decisively. He lost the first match by being cocky and fukking around and he lost the 2nd match by breaking his leg :comeon:

You're acting like Weidman was giving him the beats or something:camby:

You probably think Matt Hamill decisively beat Jon Jones too :scust:

I'm an anderson stan, but even I cant deny that in the 1st round of their 2nd fight weidman almost knocked anderson out in the clinch.
 

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He fought the same way he always fights and got SLUMPED...If Silva punches or kicks an OPP and breaks a bone, and the fight is stopped, then he won decisively, if the same is done to him, then he lost decisively...

One way of winning an MMA fight is by causing injury that requires immediate medical attention...Kenny Florian cut Chris Lieben's eyebrow, and won the fight because the Doctor believed the blood in Lieben's eyes will blind him and put him in danger...It is a part of the game...

I am not making this statements from an "anti-Silva" perspective, I am just giving Chris Weidman the credit he deserved...He practiced that kick check, and he used it to his advantage...

If it was a street fight, Silva would be in SERIOUS trouble...That is why I believe Weidman beat him DECISIVELY on both occasions...If Silva had broken his leg without making contact with Weidman, then I would NOT make this argument...

Weidman DIRECTLY caused Silva's injury, he deserves FULL CREDIT


He didn't need to do...He won both fights EASILY...Just like Conor put Aldo to sleep in 13 seconds...He didn't need to beat him up...


The Jones vs Hamill fight is not even the same...Jones made an illegal move, Matt was asked if he wanted to continue, He bytched out and said "No" because he knew he had NOTHING for Jones...

If it was a street fight, there would be NO referee to save Matt Hamill...He lost that FIGHT, but Jones didn't win the GAME because he broke the rules...

Also, I already stated that Silva won the fight against Bisping, but Bisping won the game...Again, if that was a street fight, Bisping would be in LETHAL trouble by the way Silva left him SLUMPED with that flying knee...

This is how I understand MMA for MYSELF...There is the FIGHT aspect and the GAME aspect of the sport...Sometimes a fighter wins both, and sometimes a fight wins one of the two...

The only question I ask myself when judging fights is "If this what taking place on the street, who would get the WORST of the exchanges?"

Being an Anderson Silva fan, I used to dismiss Weidman's victories, until I started asking myself "If these two guys were on the street, who would be more likely to stay standing?" The answer is CLEARLY Weidman...First he KOd dude then he broke dude...

All that typing doesn't change the fact that Cac Weidman was never a real champ :umad:
 

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For anyone interested Jason Parillio (Bispings coach, BJs former coach) did a podcast with Nick the Tooth. Goes really in depth into 199s main event. Nicks podcast is great. He's had Jake Shields, Nick Curson(great episode, Dos Anjos S&C coach), and Kenny Florian on there.

 

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Should be an entertaining fight but if that's the main event I can't imagine how weak the rest of the card is

I'm guessing it's gonna be a card with a lot of young prospects. They don't really have a lot of big names available in the next two months, so this is what they had to go with.

Still should be fun. I didn't think that Australia card was gonna be any good, but that ended up being a great card.
 

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He fought the same way he always fights and got SLUMPED...If Silva punches or kicks an OPP and breaks a bone, and the fight is stopped, then he won decisively, if the same is done to him, then he lost decisively...

One way of winning an MMA fight is by causing injury that requires immediate medical attention...Kenny Florian cut Chris Lieben's eyebrow, and won the fight because the Doctor believed the blood in Lieben's eyes will blind him and put him in danger...It is a part of the game...

I am not making this statements from an "anti-Silva" perspective, I am just giving Chris Weidman the credit he deserved...He practiced that kick check, and he used it to his advantage...

If it was a street fight, Silva would be in SERIOUS trouble...That is why I believe Weidman beat him DECISIVELY on both occasions...If Silva had broken his leg without making contact with Weidman, then I would NOT make this argument...

Weidman DIRECTLY caused Silva's injury, he deserves FULL CREDIT


He didn't need to do...He won both fights EASILY...Just like Conor put Aldo to sleep in 13 seconds...He didn't need to beat him up...


The Jones vs Hamill fight is not even the same...Jones made an illegal move, Matt was asked if he wanted to continue, He bytched out and said "No" because he knew he had NOTHING for Jones...

If it was a street fight, there would be NO referee to save Matt Hamill...He lost that FIGHT, but Jones didn't win the GAME because he broke the rules...

Also, I already stated that Silva won the fight against Bisping, but Bisping won the game...Again, if that was a street fight, Bisping would be in LETHAL trouble by the way Silva left him SLUMPED with that flying knee...

This is how I understand MMA for MYSELF...There is the FIGHT aspect and the GAME aspect of the sport...Sometimes a fighter wins both, and sometimes a fight wins one of the two...

The only question I ask myself when judging fights is "If this what taking place on the street, who would get the WORST of the exchanges?"

Being an Anderson Silva fan, I used to dismiss Weidman's victories, until I started asking myself "If these two guys were on the street, who would be more likely to stay standing?" The answer is CLEARLY Weidman...First he KOd dude then he broke dude...

Weidman vs Silva 1, I'll give Weidman credit in the first fight. Even if Silva fukking around, Weidman still gotta be able to connect with that hook. He did, so credit there.

Weidman vs Silva 2 though, you can't call that decisive. That is one of the rarest freak injuries in MMA. Decisive freak injury maybe. If Weidman has a history of checking and breaking shins, okay you have an argument.

Jones vs Hammil: The ref called Jones for a 12 to 6 elbow, ref asked Hammill if he can continue. He could not, but the reason is he fukked up his shoulder or shoulder blade or something earlier in the fight already. Not a result of the 12 to 6 elbow.
 
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