Essential The Official MMA Thread

[Kenny West]

They're not cup-caking him. The UFC is greedy and desperate, they want big fights and Anderson fighting for the belt again is a big fight. This has absolutely nothing to do with protecting Weidman.

And whether you agree with it or not, Maia and Munoz were top 10 ranked fighters when Weidman beat them. At that time, the UFC's MW division was pretty

At least you admitted the bold.

MW today is pretty too. I feel the cupcaking is in how the division is handled these days. MW is somewhat thin of contenders anyway so for them to match up Jacare and Yoel is a horrible idea to me and is kinda fishy. Jacare has already earned his shot imo and if you're trying to build credible contenders, why keep feeding dudes to the sharks?

I mean, when Gus, DC and Weedman were crushing cans en route to their title shots and I was asking why they won't fight anyone near the top 5, nikkas was telling me that the UFC tries to build and protect contenders for the future of the division. So I'm wondering why once UFC got the bland "fukk yeah murica" wrassling white boy they wanted as champion @ MW all of a sudden they want to thin out the shark tank abd give Weidman Brazillians to fight. If Jacare gets past romero he'll have to prolly fight again while waiting for Anderson to have his turn. Machida vs Kennedy is another matchup. What they gonna do with Machida after he wins? And has to wait on Anderson? Match him up with the winner of Souza/Romero?

We're getting to the point where Machida has cleared out more of MW than Weedman and dude just joined the division.

 

[Roman Brady]

At least you admitted the bold.

MW today is pretty too. I feel the cupcaking is in how the division is handled these days. MW is somewhat thin of contenders anyway so for them to match up Jacare and Yoel is a horrible idea to me and is kinda fishy. Jacare has already earned his shot imo and if you're trying to build credible contenders, why keep feeding dudes to the sharks?

I mean, when Gus, DC and Weedman were crushing cans en route to their title shots and I was asking why they won't fight anyone near the top 5, nikkas was telling me that the UFC tries to build and protect contenders for the future of the division. So I'm wondering why once UFC got the bland "fukk yeah murica" wrassling white boy they wanted as champion @ MW all of a sudden they want to thin out the shark tank abd give Weidman Brazillians to fight. If Jacare gets past romero he'll have to prolly fight again while waiting for Anderson to have his turn. Machida vs Kennedy is another matchup. What they gonna do with Machida after he wins? And has to wait on Anderson? Match him up with the winner of Souza/Romero?

We're getting to the point where Machida has cleared out more of MW than Weedman and dude just joined the division.

clap for em

 

[Roman Brady]

Jessica Eye is a nice looking lady

you can tell a woman is attractive when she looks better post fight than with make-up on

 

[The Infamous]

doesn't surprise me at all that you would advocate such behavior

Machida is willing to fight anyone. I respect that.

 

[The Infamous]

how old are Silva,machida and vitor? all the while a peer (with wrestling) in the prime of his career is facing others this proposed trilogy has no business taking place and it wouldn't have been unheard of if Rockhold got a shot off of beating bisping

How old are Shogun, Rampage, Chael, Machida, Rashad, Cormier, Glover & Vitor?

 

[The Infamous]

At least you admitted the bold.

MW today is pretty too. I feel the cupcaking is in how the division is handled these days. MW is somewhat thin of contenders anyway so for them to match up Jacare and Yoel is a horrible idea to me and is kinda fishy. Jacare has already earned his shot imo and if you're trying to build credible contenders, why keep feeding dudes to the sharks?

I mean, when Gus, DC and Weedman were crushing cans en route to their title shots and I was asking why they won't fight anyone near the top 5, nikkas was telling me that the UFC tries to build and protect contenders for the future of the division. So I'm wondering why once UFC got the bland "fukk yeah murica" wrassling white boy they wanted as champion @ MW all of a sudden they want to thin out the shark tank abd give Weidman Brazillians to fight. If Jacare gets past romero he'll have to prolly fight again while waiting for Anderson to have his turn. Machida vs Kennedy is another matchup. What they gonna do with Machida after he wins? And has to wait on Anderson? Match him up with the winner of Souza/Romero?

We're getting to the point where Machida has cleared out more of MW than Weedman and dude just joined the division.

MW is arguably the most stacked division in the UFC right now. How is it thin on contenders? I don't think there is a division with more viable contenders than MW.

Jacare has definitely earned his shot. But, you have to remember that Vitor/Weidman was originally set up on Dec 2013 and then in July 2014. Injuries and other issues have kept pushing it back. At that time, Vitor was more deserving than Jacare (this was before he beat Mousasi). You have to keep that in mind.

Swanson deserved a title shot and didn't get it. Hendricks beat practically everybody and then finally got it. Sometimes these things happen. Was the UFC trying to protect Aldo from Swanson and GSP from Hedricks? No.

Weidman has fought Anderson x2, Machida and will be fighting Vitor. Those fights make sense. Beating Anderson twice and then Machida is a very very good 3-fight streak for any fighter.

Machida is fighting Rockhold.

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

 

[The Infamous]

It's funny how people are still refusing to give Weidman his props. Dude is one of the best.

I've bet against Weidman in his last 3 fights and he's proven me wrong. I've learned my lesson.

 

[The Infamous]

Some excuses that will be brought up when Weidman finishes Vitor: 'But Vitor is old. He's past his prime. Weidman beat post TRT-Vitor, etc'

 

[Kenny West]

MW is arguably the most stacked division in the UFC right now. How is it thin on contenders? I don't think there is a division with more viable contenders than MW.

Most stacked? C'mon now, deeper than WW, FW and Lightweight?

Jacare has definitely earned his shot. But, you have to remember that Vitor/Weidman was originally set up on Dec 2013 and then in July 2014. Injuries and other issues have kept pushing it back. At that time, Vitor was more deserving than Jacare (this was before he beat Mousasi). You have to keep that in mind.

you're right here. but at the same time Vitor's shot was GONE when he pulled from the last fight for TRT. He hasn't fought since then, it's been like a year of layover. Shouldn't he have to earn it again? Thats what Gus, Edgar, Swanson etc had to do.

Swanson deserved a title shot and didn't get it. Hendricks beat practically everybody and then finally got it. Sometimes these things happen. Was the UFC trying to protect Aldo from Swanson and GSP from Hedricks? No.

Thats different. Welterweight and Featherweight are much deeper for one. Two, Aldo cleaned that division's top 5 (sans Connor) and has wins over all of them + korean zombie. 3, I remember the lead up to Johnny getting his title shot, they were caking GSP in the same way. the UFC was trying their DAMNEDEST to keep GSP as far away from Hendricks as possible. You don't remember everyone being pissed when they gave Nick Diaz the title shot coming off a loss? Hendricks crying to Dana for a title shot every post fight?

Some excuses that will be brought up when Weidman finishes Vitor: 'But Vitor is old. He's past his prime. Weidman beat post TRT-Vitor, etc'

Nobody co-signed this match up when it was announced the 2nd time. nobody

 

[Roman Brady]

Machida is willing to fight anyone. I respect that.

would you respect cormier if he was willing to fight Cain or if McDonald threw his name in the hat to face George?

 

[The Infamous]

Most stacked? C'mon now, deeper than WW, FW and Lightweight?

It's arguably the most stacked in terms of viable contenders. The top 3 divisions in the UFC are WW, LW & MW. I believe in terms of contenders, MW is the most stacked. You have Jacare, Vitor, Romero, Rockhold, Mousasi, & even Machida II. A lot of potential match-ups to be made. What I will say though is that MW does take a dive after the top 8-9 or so.

you're right here. but at the same time Vitor's shot was GONE when he pulled from the last fight for TRT. He hasn't fought since then, it's been like a year of layover. Shouldn't he have to earn it again? Thats what Gus, Edgar, Swanson etc had to do.


Thats different. Welterweight and Featherweight are much deeper for one. Two, Aldo cleaned that division's top 5 (sans Connor) and has wins over all of them + korean zombie. 3, I remember the lead up to Johnny getting his title shot, they were caking GSP in the same way. the UFC was trying their DAMNEDEST to keep GSP as far away from Hendricks as possible. You don't remember everyone being pissed when they gave Nick Diaz the title shot coming off a loss? Hendricks crying to Dana for a title shot every post fight?


Nobody co-signed this match up when it was announced the 2nd time. nobody

The UFC is a business. They want to make fights that generate the most money. They are willing to pass up deserving contenders for a potential money fight. That is why Nick got his shot against GSP. That's why Conor is getting a shot (and was protected against bad match-ups and the division's elite) against Aldo. That's why the UFC is looking to set up Weidman/Silva III. When Nick got his shot coming off a lose (instead of Hendricks), I was super pissed. Like you said, most hardcore fans were pissed. But at the end of the day, the numbers don't lie. GSP/Diaz generated 950k buys and GSP/Hendricks generated 630k buys. Looking at it, In terms of strictly business, the UFC made the right decision. GSP was not protected, he faced every major challenger that was available.

People don't care about Vitor/Weidman? A month and a half ago, the UFC website had a poll on what fight are you most excited for. The fans voted Jones/Cormier 1) and Vitor/Weidman 2). Vitor is a big name, especially in Brazil. A Vitor/Weidman match-up is the biggest fight you can make right now for the MW title, the casuals want to see it. And to the UFC, that's pretty much all that matters.

 

[The Infamous]

You have to realize that UFC is not in it for fairness or who's the most deserving. They're more concerned about what fight makes them the most money.

 

[The Infamous]

would you respect cormier if he was willing to fight Cain or if McDonald threw his name in the hat to face George?

Of course. I respect any fighter that is willing to fight anybody.

 

[Roman Brady]

How old are Shogun

was 29 when Jones beat him,

Rampage

33 when it happened,

Chael,

still not Anderson's age and the division was righting itself. A problem the MW division isn't facing.

Machida,

Years younger than when he faced weidman

Rashad,

32

Cormier, Glover

considerably younger than silv and at this point Jones has tenure as champ

Vitor?

mid 30s not damn near 40 like he'll be in February .Since Weidman beat Lawlor all his opponents have been mid 30s or older and let's not do the average age of who he's defended his title against, no comparison. That delay in making the Rockhold fight is not a good look