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The OFFICIAL MICHIGAN FOOTBALL TEAM 140 THREAD: THE TEAM! THE TEAM! THE TEAM!
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NigerianDonDada
FFOE
Should of took one more shot at the end zone instead of settling for the FG 
intra vires
Glory to Michigan
I'm surprised they threw it...
NigerianDonDada
FFOE
game. Still hate how we use our WRs. Bye Week next week. MSU game in 2 weeks. Gattis better have this offense humming these last 3 games.
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Coli Prophet
Michigan Football Chatter: MSU Week
"I think when we revisit this season, the biggest question is not going to be whether they got the most out of Shea, but whether they made the right decision to go with him in the first place. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Dylan [McCaffrey] was the better quarterback coming out of fall camp, but in my opinion and a few others I've spoken to, there was more clay to work with, more to mold.
"In retrospect, I think the staff was concerned about going on the road and beating Wisconsin and doubled-down on committing to Shea, and it obviously didn't work out well. If they gambled on Dylan, there was a greater concern about winning that game and so Shea was the guy. No one expected the regression we've seen."
• A second source isn't willing to let the staff completely off the hook for that decision or for Patterson seemingly taking steps back compared to last year. In fact, close to the Brandon Peters' situation and talking to coaches at Illinois, this person thinks there has been a common thread with U-M quarterbacks.
"Talking to some of the coaches at Illinois, they were shocked how mentally defeated Brandon Peters was when he got there," this source noted. "The physical talent was there, and they saw it on film when he first got his chance [for Michigan in 2017] but they had to rebuild his confidence from scratch.
"Now, I understand, that can be deceived as a disgruntled former player and comments from a competitor, but if you look at Wilton Speight, John O'Korn after he came in from Houston, Peters, and now Patterson they all got worse.
"I've been told by a former Michigan coach one of the biggest points of contention he had [with Jim Harbaugh] is the way the quarterbacks are coached. They grind them down, place handcuffs on them. The overarching philosophy is preaching not making mistakes instead of making plays, and it's reinforced over and over again in practices, in meeting rooms, watching film, and so these guys become so preoccupied with playing it safe that they never take calculated risks anymore.
"Whether it's a conscious decision or not, Jim Harbaugh is creating game managers in an era where quarterbacks are a team's greatest playmakers. And until something gives, you're going to see the pattern repeat, with McCaffrey, with [Joe] Milton with [2021 commitment] JJ McCarthy."
We've been preaching all this for the last 5 years. And I don't think its gonna change. No matter who you bring in to be your OC. Jim will always handcuff our QB's. Can you believe Shea STILL hasn't thrown for 300 yards in a game yet?
"I think when we revisit this season, the biggest question is not going to be whether they got the most out of Shea, but whether they made the right decision to go with him in the first place. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Dylan [McCaffrey] was the better quarterback coming out of fall camp, but in my opinion and a few others I've spoken to, there was more clay to work with, more to mold.
"In retrospect, I think the staff was concerned about going on the road and beating Wisconsin and doubled-down on committing to Shea, and it obviously didn't work out well. If they gambled on Dylan, there was a greater concern about winning that game and so Shea was the guy. No one expected the regression we've seen."
• A second source isn't willing to let the staff completely off the hook for that decision or for Patterson seemingly taking steps back compared to last year. In fact, close to the Brandon Peters' situation and talking to coaches at Illinois, this person thinks there has been a common thread with U-M quarterbacks.
"Talking to some of the coaches at Illinois, they were shocked how mentally defeated Brandon Peters was when he got there," this source noted. "The physical talent was there, and they saw it on film when he first got his chance [for Michigan in 2017] but they had to rebuild his confidence from scratch.
"Now, I understand, that can be deceived as a disgruntled former player and comments from a competitor, but if you look at Wilton Speight, John O'Korn after he came in from Houston, Peters, and now Patterson they all got worse.
"I've been told by a former Michigan coach one of the biggest points of contention he had [with Jim Harbaugh] is the way the quarterbacks are coached. They grind them down, place handcuffs on them. The overarching philosophy is preaching not making mistakes instead of making plays, and it's reinforced over and over again in practices, in meeting rooms, watching film, and so these guys become so preoccupied with playing it safe that they never take calculated risks anymore.
"Whether it's a conscious decision or not, Jim Harbaugh is creating game managers in an era where quarterbacks are a team's greatest playmakers. And until something gives, you're going to see the pattern repeat, with McCaffrey, with [Joe] Milton with [2021 commitment] JJ McCarthy."
We've been preaching all this for the last 5 years. And I don't think its gonna change. No matter who you bring in to be your OC. Jim will always handcuff our QB's. Can you believe Shea STILL hasn't thrown for 300 yards in a game yet?
Whips-n-Chains
Chi
MI covers -12 at home. MSU is cooked and mark dantonio has completely Lost the team
eastside313
Superstar
I’ll believe it when i see it. 2016 when y’all went 3-9 Michigan was suppose to demolish MSU. Didn’t happen.
glad you accept going back to normal you had a good run
Whips-n-Chains
Chi
Have y’all accepted your normal?
DropTopDoc
20/20 Vision With my Buffs On
But didn’t jim let luck do his thing ?? I’m not there, but peters looks good, he makes mistakes but he looks good, not sure how risk adverse Jim is because shae be killing me, I’d love to see what joe has i think he’s a grenade waiting to explode
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Coli Prophet
I think we'll cover too.. but it'll be with the run game. I can see 2 dudes going over 100 yards again.. and Shea passing for like 168 yards with a single TD.
I think the old Harbaugh and this new one are two completely different people. I always thought Peters had the tools to be good.. and he's showing it now.. with WAY less talent in Illinois. Im happy for the kid. Even if we continue to turn it around.. and yall might kill me.. but even if we beat OSU.. I think its just best to move on from Jim fellas. Somethings just..not..right. And this article was 100% right. QB's are playmakers and the best player on an elite team 90-95% of the time. Why handcuff them and not let them do what they did when you recruited them? Imagine averaging 350+ yards per game all throughout high school, only to be limited to button hooks, and 10 yard outs.
DropTopDoc
20/20 Vision With my Buffs On
I think we'll cover too.. but it'll be with the run game. I can see 2 dudes going over 100 yards again.. and Shea passing for like 168 yards with a single TD.
I think the old Harbaugh and this new one are two completely different people. I always thought Peters had the tools to be good.. and he's showing it now.. with WAY less talent in Illinois. Im happy for the kid. Even if we continue to turn it around.. and yall might kill me.. but even if we beat OSU.. I think its just best to move on from Jim fellas. Somethings just..not..right. And this article was 100% right. QB's are playmakers and the best player on an elite team 90-95% of the time. Why handcuff them and not let them do what they did when you recruited them? Imagine averaging 350+ yards per game all throughout high school, only to be limited to button hooks, and 10 yard outs.
I can’t call it fam you know where i stand
DropTopDoc
20/20 Vision With my Buffs On
Open up that Florida pipeline and get our offense together for a year willie
El Poyo Loco
Akrassikauda = Black Scorpion
Shea finally threw for over 300 yards 