The Official Joe Budden Podcast Thread

[RickyGQ]

IMO budden introduced the hip hop world to podcasting.

On this scale. Joe wasn’t the first at all but he’s took the ball and ran the furthest.

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

why do you keep ignoring the 360 portion of the contract? Joe has been talking about ownership for a while now

He was already giving them a portion of his tour money.

He didn’t even try to negotiate what they offered (his words). He could’ve easily countered with they will continue to get tour proceeds but nothing else.

 

[NerdNash]

IMO budden introduced the hip hop world to podcasting.

what lol

 

[Youseenmywork]

So you’re turning down $20 million to talk 3 hours a day, two times a week huh?

YES nikka ....and I will do you one better ill turn down the 50 miilion they offered Dave Chappelle . Why is this so hard to understand that some people think in LONG terms instead of short term??

 

[Youseenmywork]

IMO budden introduced the hip hop world to podcasting.

COMBAT JACK is the godfather sir

 

[Youseenmywork]

what lol

nikkas just be talking ...how you forget combat jack ??

 

[NerdNash]

nikkas just be talking ...how you forget combat jack ??

and Juan Epstein

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

It’s not just $20 million. Spotify wants to own his catalog, put ads on all his old episodes, wants to have editing power over his content, a cut of the live shows and a cut out of anything else they do outside of the podcast. (According to him to be fair). If you can find a deal for 10 million with complete autonomy and ownership, I’d take the 10. I think people keep underselling them with the “or nothing” part of the argument. They built the podcast without Spotify, all Spotify did was give them a platform not the infrastructure.

My issue is he didn’t even try to counter. Nobody listens to their old episodes; as long as I’m getting money off those ads, they can place what they want on them IMO.

I wouldn’t give up editing rights or ownership, but a portion of proceeds from touring isn’t a big problem if tens of millions on the table.

Companies aren’t giving him $10 million to literally do whatever he wants and then not run ads during the show. It’s nothing in it for the company at the that point.

 

[RickyGQ]

Word. Podcasts on Spotify are free. You don’t gotta pay to listen. So how he make them 9 figures

I’m theory, Spotify takes his listeners and tells advertisers that X amount of listeners listens to this podcast twice a week for 2 plus hours at a time and charges them an amount of money.

 

[threattonature]

How Joe go from dissing Charlemagne and call him studio to saying read the room there’s bigger things happening in the world to going right back to dissing him lol.

IMO budden introduced the hip hop world to podcasting.

So Combat Jack didn’t exist?

 

[RickyGQ]

My issue is he didn’t even try to counter. Nobody listens to their old episodes; as long as I’m getting money off those ads, they can place what they want on them IMO.

I wouldn’t give up editing rights or ownership, but a portion of proceeds from touring isn’t a big problem if tens of millions on the table.

Companies aren’t giving him $10 million to literally do whatever he wants and then not run ads during the show. It’s nothing in it for the company at the that point.

Your not getting money off those ads. Your getting your flat $20 million. According to Joe, 20,000 people listened to their first episode last week.

 

[Jim Cornette]

Joe:

 

[gldnone913]

He was already giving them a portion of his tour money.

He didn’t even try to negotiate what they offered (his words). He could’ve easily countered with they will continue to get tour proceeds but nothing else.

The tour was for the podcast, so it's understandable that Spotify gets that. But giving them a part of all of your ventures? Giving them rights to the podcast for years down the line? Nah, bro. That's the oppression piece he's talking about.

It's hard to negotiate with a company that hasn't done business in good faith, and presents a BS contract

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

YES nikka ....and I will do you one better ill turn down the 50 miilion they offered Dave Chappelle . Why is this so hard to understand that some people think in LONG terms instead of short term??

If you can’t make $20 million turn into other ventures long term, I don’t know what to tel you. They literally have 5 free days a week to do other things.

Your not getting money off those ads. Your getting your flat $20 million. According to Joe, 20,000 people listened to their first episode last week.

I feel all of that could be negotiable though. My issue is that if the dollars were of a desirable amount, why not counter instead of completely burning the bridge down?

 

[threattonature]

My issue is he didn’t even try to counter. Nobody listens to their old episodes; as long as I’m getting money off those ads, they can place what they want on them IMO.

I wouldn’t give up editing rights or ownership, but a portion of proceeds from touring isn’t a big problem if tens of millions on the table.

Companies aren’t giving him $10 million to literally do whatever he wants and then not run ads during the show. It’s nothing in it for the company at the that point.

That’s the biggest part of this that I’m not getting. Just allowing ads alone would probably up the offer a lot. This time they used Greys Anatomy being number one for so long while ignoring that they having high ratings allows the network to then go to ad agencies and get the bag based off them being number one. By not allowing ads Joe is taking away that ability which then means them being number one doesn’t do much for Spotify’s bottom line.