The Official Joe Budden Podcast Thread

[lib123]

you're arguing with literal bots breh

Yeah it is a bizarre argument to say Kendrick in 2024 was more impactful than 50 in ‘03.

 

[Ziggiy]

Macklemore was considered the most critically acclaimed rapper in 2013. He wasn’t as impactful as Kendrick was that year.

Now your just trolling.

Macklemore wasn’t even the most critically acclaimed WHITE rapper of 2013. The fukk is going on in here?!?!!

 

[Ziggiy]

No he didn’t. Drake’s music is still played more widely than Kendrick’s.

 

[Fani Willis fan]

I can tell you're from the east coast. Eminem was far bigger than 50 that year. "03 50" is only something east coast nikkas talk about...ofc 50 was hot in the east, he's from that region...but everywhere else Eminem was literally running this shyt.

Last few of pages have been full of terrible & washed takes

 

[Mike18jj]

wtf going on here

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

Understood but a lot of people really don’t care about the beef and Kendrick winning like that. Not Like Us isn’t playing everywhere and being listened to be literally everyone like In Da Club was. My white friends stay at home moms knew about In Da Club. And I’m young but I heard when Biggie blew up in ‘95 you could stand on a corner on NYC, Philly or DC and car after car was blasting his music. That’s what I mean by impact. Kendrick hasn’t had that type of impact, at least on the East Coast.

It’s like talking to wall when you’re talking to Kendrick fans. According to the them hip-hop started in 2024

 

[valet]

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[valet]

Mel just playing a character, extended clip

 

[Big Boss]

Kendrick is literally the most critically acclaimed rapper ever, and combine this with a huge commercial success, that's unheard of.

in 2024 alone, NLU is the first diss track to go #1, and even when you put that aside, he literally had the entire top 5 of the billboard hot 100 on lock few months ago. That's a feat only The Beatles, Taylor Swift and Drake have done.

Within the same year he had:

-A critically acclaimed album
-The first rap song to win 5 grammy awards since lauryn Hill.
-The second rapper to ever win Song Of the Year and Record Of the Year
-3 number 1 hits (could have had 5)
-Super Bowl slot
-First diss track to go #1
-entire top 5 of the billboard hot 100 on lock
-won a big rap battle
-has many publications ranking his diss track the best diss record ever
-first rapper to headline a stadium tour
... (the list goes on)



And broke many streaming records.

This is the most impressive year for a rapper. No other rapper has been able to reach that level of acclaim combined to that level of commercial success.

Facts

 

[mrjoncampbell]

 

[Trav]

Mel just playing a character, extended clip

They really have to stop with this "content" and leave this behind in 24'. And Ish need to chill before he pass out from too much Cortisol flowing thru in his veins all at once

 

[Krs2]

Damn I can stand loud ass nikkas like that

Also first time I heard Angie say nikka, I didn't even knew that was in her vocab

"Oh but she's a latin Mami from NY so it's all good"

 

[Harry B]

Fair enough. I bring up Macklemore as an example of how being critically acclaimed shouldn’t necessarily be used as a major impact metric. Kendrick’s year still wasn’t as impactful as Biggie in ‘95, DMX in 98 or 50 in ‘03 as far as amassing massive numbers of new fans.

Macklemore wasn’t critically acclaimed.
He wasn’t on any top 10, top 20 or even top 50 lists in music. It was a solid album, with two diamond global smash hits. Him winning best album at one award was a well recongnized upset not least cause he was indie, but because it was only 3 relevant songs on there. And as we all know, a lot of times the only musicians voting for Grammys are old rock, jazz and classical music guys.

The impact of those singles is still such that they’re played like they are new.


So you can’t compare him to anyone in this discussion. It would be more like Mc Hammer. Except that Macklemores album didn’t sell that much. So more like Fetty Wap

 

[Not Crodie]

Uh no. Have you seen how many albums Get Rich or Die Trying sold in ‘03?

He's right, this is a billboard ranking based on chart performances. You can't disagree with factual numbers.

 

[lib123]

He's right, this is a billboard ranking based on chart performances. You can't disagree with factual numbers.

I’m talking factual numbers as far as the number of people who consumed and became new fans of 50 in a one year period.