The Official Joe Budden Podcast Thread

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This doesn't make sense. If it's an accepted form of comedy, and has been so for a century...why wouldn't it be included in films and television? And if you understand it's comedy and not a commentary on your sexuality, why would you have a problem with it? The impression I get is that certain (not all) black performers view it as a commentary on their sexuality. And in terms of pressure sure, if the script says xyz and you say you aren't doing it (and don't have the cache to do so)....why wouldn't there be some pressure? You're stalling the production at that point.

You cannot simutaneously argue "it's different for white guys" and "they don't put dresses on white guys" btw. Which is the problem I have. People just being dumb and saying anything. And when they get proven wrong they start moving goal posts.


Not only have men portrayed women in acting roles for HUNDREDS of years (longer, even, but there are tons of examples in recent history) across cultures, in many cases women weren't even ALLOWED to act as women. This is FACTUAL from the agora to Kabuki to the present day. It's insane. Let's also conveniently ignore the fact that many of the greatest military outfits throughout history that cats love to big up (Spartans, samurai) not only strictly prohibited female contact, but actively encouraged homosexual engagement. According to Cali brehs the men in indigenous tribes wear slacks, though no explorer ever has happened upon one. Remember the hieroglyphics of pharaohs in pants? Right. Did brehs not do the research on high heels, and that they were invented for men who didn't want to get their pants dirty? It's not fukking wild for Joe to say all this shyt and then talk his mani/pedi shyt?

Hollywood is a dirty place. Not one person's hands are fully clean. They make the sausage, nikkas can decide whether or not they want to read The Jungle.
 

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This is stupid take
 

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This is stupid take
This is one of the absolutely stupidest takes I’ve ever seen. Joe nor Ian have any ownership or control over Patreon. If he would have said like Tasha K, he may have had a slightly better point, since she has a completely independent platform.

It still wouldn’t be a good point because you can’t get the traction you need without the visibility of YouTube. It is what it is. Joe and Ian will never get a fraction of the views Shannon got with Katt behind a paywall. For as much as the Umar video blew up, it wasn’t close to this. And even that people consumed in clips mostly.

Ian is just another untalented white man with limited intelligence who found the right black guy to think they need him. Hip-hop is full of them (Lyor, Rifkin, Lobell, Joey IE, etc).

Trying to nickel and dime people for interview episodes because you can’t figure out how to monetize your product properly (ads, paid promo in the episode, merch, etc) is not a groundbreaking business model.

This is hate and stupidity mixed into one.
 

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This is stupid take

I'm pretty sure that Sharpe got paid for that interview. And he'll be getting paid from the video and the clips for a good 6 months. Probably got some new subs for it as well.

That Umar probably would have done at least half of those numbers if it went on YT 1st. Especially seeing how much bootlegging was going on when it dropped.

This just sounds like Ian believes the Dr. Umar interview could have done the same views, but Patreon fukked that up, and now they're trying to reverse psychology justify it.
 

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People arent paying for a Katt Williams interview. The amount of people who would be willing to pay for that is a VERY SMALL audience. Even if they heard he was doing what he did, its nothing he hasnt done for before. He’s talked shyt about other comedians before, he’s talked about the ills of Hollywood.
 

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This is stupid take

:laff: Gtfoh

Folks would have ripped the interview just like some did for Umar. Joe even said on yesterday's episode that he wished his interview with Katt wasn't regulated by folks in suits. This is some money grab shyt and I'm glad folks are calling out this BS
 

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Everyone cooking that dude in the quotes and replies and now he's trying to switch it up and say it's not about money, dude is a fukking clown that's exactly what it's about. Why would he need to add a "free" subscription model when he has his platform already created, wtf is he talking about.
 

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Everyone cooking that dude in the quotes and replies and now he's trying to switch it up and say it's not about money, dude is a fukking clown that's exactly what it's about. Why would he need to add a "free" subscription model when he has his platform already created, wtf is he talking about.
The accessibility has generated groundbreaking numbers for Shannon, which is a form of marketing.

Ian basically played into the Jewish money hungry stereotype.
Except Ian has a low class, quick grab way of thinking which is why he is tied down to Joe Budden.
 

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People arent paying for a Katt Williams interview. The amount of people who would be willing to pay for that is a VERY SMALL audience. Even if they heard he was doing what he did, its nothing he hasnt done for before. He’s talked shyt about other comedians before, he’s talked about the ills of Hollywood.
He did it for the culture, both of them got enough money to not make it a money grab. Its doing press :manny:
 
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