That Reason interview was...bad. I peeped to see the context of the public dispute he had with TDE's president and jesus, this guy has no real personality and doesn't seem engaging at fukking all. All of the laughs and entertainment in that segment were driven by Joe and the crew. Even the way he talks about music sounds emotionless. Like he's mad that he checks all the boxes he thinks should be checked and doesn't understand why no one else agrees. Music is about more than checking boxes. Dude sounds like a guy who spends too much time at music writing seminars and industry functions.
I also peeped the album, or most of it. And it's not good. The turn up tracks have zero energy because again...he sounds like some dude with autism trying to have a party.