The Official Joe Budden Podcast Thread

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

Ish was destroying Joe

 

[Negro Caesar]

Joe was stuck when that severance pay was understood. He was so confident until Ish agreed to pay Joe if he quit. Joe was shocked.

Joe looked stupid as shyt. He knows he’s trying to fukk over Ish. I don’t understand why u would want to work with a nikka who is obviously out to fukk you over

 

[manyfaces]

This almost makes me understand why Joe always crying out when it come contract re-up time with any of these companies. He really has trouble comprehending the parallels between what he's talking about and Ish's pov and argues his point using these horrible false equivalencies. Nothing Ish said or was requesting was out of line.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Joe might not do explicit ads but those long ass interviews with mediocre major label artists must be long ass ads

And he’s definitely getting paid for shout outs


He will name Drop that someone random singer like Jessie Reyes dropped a great project and won’t play a single song from it.

If Joe really like that album and listened to it he’s going to play something from it

 

[Negro Caesar]

And he’s definitely getting paid for shout outs


He will name Drop that someone random singer like Jessie Reyes dropped a great project and won’t play a single song from it.

If Joe really like that album and listened to it he’s going to play something from it

U think someone paying him to say that little? I think Joe does that just so he can seem like he really is a music head and don’t just listen to main artist albums.

 

[MicIsGod]

Something wrong with this nikka

 

[Switch]

That contract convo is insane, no sane person is agreeing to those terms. fukk out here Joe

 

[manyfaces]

Joe looked stupid as shyt. He knows he’s trying to fukk over Ish. I don’t understand why u would want to work with a nikka who is obviously out to fukk you over

After hearing that I'm seriously not even sure if that's the case. I legit think Joe doesn't have the understanding or knowledge to be able to negotiate a contract in good faith. His only real knowledge base for contract negotiations is the music business, which is notorious for having extremely unfair, one sided deals. That's his main point of reference, so in his eyes your either doing the fukking, or getting fukked in a contract. He seems to want to make sure he's the one not getting fukked in these situations, not realizing that there can be good contract situations where both parties come away with a win-win. Him being obtuse and not understanding Ish's pov regarding his protections in the contract is on brand for someone that's self centered and only able to see things from their own perspective. "How does it benefit me" is the question it seems to always come back to for him. That shyt was frustrating to listen to. Like trying to get my 10 year old to understand what he's saying is wrong. At least Ish left with a whole pan full of hot baked muffins after that one

 

[No1]

That contract convo is insane, no sane person is agreeing to those terms. fukk out here Joe

Also, his entry level point is stupid. Kevin Hart has never had a talk show before, you think he is considered entry level? It's based on how profitable you are to the company. A first year associate at a big organization makes more than a first year at a small one because you're involved with more money. This is nonsense Joe is talking. By elevating Ish to host, you determined that he warranted that salary. You think the first time host on a major show is getting what a first time host on a basement podcast is getting paid.

Ish is the only first time host on a podcast of that nature, there is no comparison.

 

[FreshAIG]

Joe is a nutcase lmaooooo. I finally watched the joint with Ish

 

[manyfaces]

Also, his entry level point is stupid. Kevin Hart has never had a talk show before, you think he is considered entry level? It's based on how profitable you are to the company. A first year associate at a big organization makes more than a first year at a small one because you're involved with more money. This is nonsense Joe is talking. By elevating Ish to host, you determined that he warranted that salary. You think the first time host on a major show is getting what a first time host on a basement podcast is getting paid.

Ish is the only first time host on a podcast of that nature, there is no comparison.

Exactly. Him pulling that out to try and minimalize Ish's role only made the argument more ridiculous for Joe when he's arguing with someone who deals with contracts by trade and understands value. Instead of Joe listening and trying to understand Ish's points, he was presenting the most non-sensical arguments to try and refute them. nikka wasn't making a lick of sense.

 

[Sir Richard Spirit]

After hearing that I'm seriously not even sure if that's the case. I legit think Joe doesn't have the understanding or knowledge to be able to negotiate a contract in good faith. His only real knowledge base for contract negotiations is the music business, which is notorious for having extremely unfair, one sided deals. That's his main point of reference, so in his eyes your either doing the fukking, or getting fukked in a contract. He seems to want to make sure he's the one not getting fukked in these situations, not realizing that there can be good contract situations where both parties come away with a win-win. Him being obtuse and not understanding Ish's pov regarding his protections in the contract is on brand for someone that's self centered and only able to see things from their own perspective. "How does it benefit me" is the question it seems to always come back to for him. That shyt was frustrating to listen to. Like trying to get my 10 year old to understand what he's saying is wrong. At least Ish left with a whole pan full of hot baked muffins after that one

Exactly. Him pulling that out to try and minimalize Ish's role only made the argument more ridiculous for Joe when he's arguing with someone who deals with contracts by trade and understands value. Instead of Joe listening and trying to understand Ish's points, he was presenting the most non-sensical arguments to try and refute them. nikka wasn't making a lick of sense.

Allllllll of this. I was blown away at Joe thinking this shyt was some unheard of idea.


Then Ish was like yo I did a building on this block. I can’t take a job like that, if I’m doing this pod. I can’t take a $100,000 job if I’m doing this pod. I had to lay staff off because I’m doing this pod.


Joe is like if I fire you in this RECESSION you’ll be fine.


Imagine you telling your boss you are taking on less work at your own business to work for him.

Then he brings up firing you in a RECESSION.

 

[Golayitdown]

Ish was shytting on Joe in the contract convo

 

[MicIsGod]

After hearing that I'm seriously not even sure if that's the case. I legit think Joe doesn't have the understanding or knowledge to be able to negotiate a contract in good faith. His only real knowledge base for contract negotiations is the music business, which is notorious for having extremely unfair, one sided deals. That's his main point of reference, so in his eyes your either doing the fukking, or getting fukked in a contract. He seems to want to make sure he's the one not getting fukked in these situations, not realizing that there can be good contract situations where both parties come away with a win-win. Him being obtuse and not understanding Ish's pov regarding his protections in the contract is on brand for someone that's self centered and only able to see things from their own perspective. "How does it benefit me" is the question it seems to always come back to for him. That shyt was frustrating to listen to. Like trying to get my 10 year old to understand what he's saying is wrong. At least Ish left with a whole pan full of hot baked muffins after that one

Man nah. Joe knows exactly what he’s doing is bullshyt and just thinks he can bullshyt everyone.

 

[Rev]

After hearing that I'm seriously not even sure if that's the case. I legit think Joe doesn't have the understanding or knowledge to be able to negotiate a contract in good faith. His only real knowledge base for contract negotiations is the music business, which is notorious for having extremely unfair, one sided deals. That's his main point of reference, so in his eyes your either doing the fukking, or getting fukked in a contract. He seems to want to make sure he's the one not getting fukked in these situations, not realizing that there can be good contract situations where both parties come away with a win-win. Him being obtuse and not understanding Ish's pov regarding his protections in the contract is on brand for someone that's self centered and only able to see things from their own perspective. "How does it benefit me" is the question it seems to always come back to for him. That shyt was frustrating to listen to. Like trying to get my 10 year old to understand what he's saying is wrong. At least Ish left with a whole pan full of hot baked muffins after that one

Ish told Alex to cut the oven on so he can bake those muffins