The Official Joe Budden Podcast Thread

[Silkk]

I feel like Trey doesn't have enough to compete, maybe Im bugging

Trey definitely has 20.

Trey definitely got 20

But court of public opinion keeps Trey out of versuz

I Think Trey Could Give Us 20 Minutes Of Hits

Spoiler

 

[JealousOnesEn_V]

I would rather see Cole vs Meek

Wale vs Big Sean

Meek is getting Cole outta here

 

[FluffyEyes]

You ignored it

Usher career peak was the late 90s to early/mid 00s. Chris brown career started in the mid 00s

Kanye is a 00s artist. Drakes is 10s artist.

Kanye should go against Wayne

No I didn't. I know exactly when the peak was for all these artists. A "generational divide" means nothing when Usher can get on the stage and flex his vocals like those songs came out yesterday yet Chris(who is 10 years younger) is relying very heavily on backing tracks and the crowd to sing for him.

As for Kanye and Drake, Kanye's discog is just better overall.

 

[FluffyEyes]

Just to add with Verzuz, the song sequencing makes a difference. What songs goes against what is also very important along with performance in this format of Verzuz.

 

[CoolinInTheCut]

no role models
middle child
Power trip
a lot
the london
crooked smile
neighbors
cant get enough
work out
amari
GOMD
in the morning
the Jackie
down bad
fire squad
wet dreamz

Respect for actually putting up a 20 but Cole turning into a pack with this lol

also: closing out with wet dreamz is insane lmao

 

[1thouwow]

You and this white people shyt. I’m not gonna get disrespectful cuz it’s just music at the end of the day but I didn’t say Future is only anything. He has more trap songs than anything else tho and that’s a fact. But if you dead ass think Future’s music is closer to Drake’s than Ye’s you need to turn in your hip hop card. That’s why Ice got laughed out the room when he said that dumb shyt

nikka when has anybody respected the JBP for their music takes? Now you finally agree with them on one thing and you wanna act like what they say is law

 

[ThiefyPoo]

Respect for actually putting up a 20 but Cole turning into a pack with this lol

That’s what I’m saying this ain’t cutting it .

Cole playing those boring as songs while wale playing matrimony , bad , lotus flower bomb ,the way , ambition , on chill , no hands , love hate thing , clappers , sabotage , sexy lady ,bait so many he could do all features or ladies bag .

Jcole is dope but that shyt wouldn’t fly on that stage .

Also wale is a good performer like jcole .

 

[StackorStarve]

nikka when has anybody respected the JBP for their music takes? Now you finally agree with them on one thing and you wanna act like what they say is law

You got it bruh. We just not gonna agree on this one. It’s all good

 

[Harry B]

You and this white people shyt.

The kid is obviously a non-black troll

 

[Harry B]

no role models
middle child
Power trip
a lot
the london
crooked smile
neighbors
cant get enough
work out
amari
GOMD
in the morning
the Jackie
down bad
fire squad
wet dreamz

I'll add competitors

Planez with Jeremih
Kevin's heart
95 south
Pride is the devil
All I want is you with Miguel
Pretty little fears with 6lack
Family and Loyalty with Gang starr
Jodeci Freestyle
ATM
Apparently
She knows

The dudes are only thinking about RnB-star x Rapper songs and club bangers, and in that dimension it's close.
After that it takes off, cause that's just a small part of Cole while it's Wale's whole attraction.

I've not fukked with Cole for years but dude is the king of loosies, he has loosies with 100 million views and shyt.
While Wale will have to rest on his 6-7 biggest songs, which were very big hits - albeit that he got outshined big time on all of them, by Chris, Usher, Jeremih, Nicki, Tiara and on. But this is 20 songs, many different dimensions. Can't just play RnB vocals for 20 songs.

Joe thinks just cause he called Lox vs Dipset, his word is now god's word

 

[STAN JONES]

Ish sounding crazy during this Air B&B debate

I don’t think he realizes how ugly it could’ve gotten had the richest people decided to buy up most of the housing properties in the country and turn them into Air B&Bs basically forcing people to pay daily rent

dude really is a capitalist piece of shyt

 

[ThiefyPoo]

I'll add competitors

Planez with Jeremih
Kevin's heart
95 south
Pride is the devil
All I want is you with Miguel
Pretty little fears with 6lack
Family and Loyalty with Gang starr
Jodeci Freestyle
ATM
Apparently
She knows

The dudes are only thinking about RnB-star x Rapper songs and club bangers, and in that dimension it's close.
After that it takes off, cause that's just a small part of Cole while it's Wale's whole attraction.

I've not fukked with Cole for years but dude is the king of loosies, he has loosies with 100 million views and shyt.
While Wale will have to rest on his 6-7 biggest songs, which were very big hits - albeit that he got outshined big time on all of them, by Chris, Usher, Jeremih, Nicki, Tiara and on. But this is 20 songs, many different dimensions. Can't just play RnB vocals for 20 songs.

Joe thinks just cause he called Lox vs Dipset, his word is now god's word

 

[threattonature]

He has 20 songs but to compete with Chris Brown and it’ll be close? Idk. They seem like two different levels

Between the Anticipation mixtapes and Passion, Pain, and Pleasure alone Trey could have a monster 20 off quality but I agree he won't necessarily have the tracks that non-Trey fans would know as much. Then again Jadakiss showed if you got some quality tracks mixed with a great performance he could still pull it off.

 

[FreshAIG]

The pandemic discussion and not paying rent is not moral discussion. I understood Ish point, but I agreed with Surf and Joe more, they just didn't word it properly imo

The reason I wouldn't pay rent even with the extra 600 a week is because in a pandemic, I have no idea how long this is going to last and additionally, I don't know what the job market or the world is gonna look like when it's over. I'm going to be save up while I can, as long as I'm not breaking any laws. So if the government says I don't have to pay my rent during this time, then I'm not paying it. The landlord not being able to pay the mortgage sucks, but that comes with owning property. You take unexpected losses and you have to account for that whenever you invest into any business. That's not my responsibility as a renter, nor am I morally wrong for not paying rent when I'm not obligated to.

And also Surf had a point but he lost it because Ish took him off course. Same way if I lost a job, and I'm not getting an extra 600 a week for unemployment, I'm still obligated to pay my rent, and the landlord doesn't care that I can't and they're not morally wrong for still asking for their rent. I owe them, and if I don't pay, they have the right to kick me out. That's part of the responsibility of renting out a property is to pay for it.

 

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

Usher and Chris brown are not in the same era and they should never do a vs together. It was just be a generational divide of fans arguing

Chris brown should only go up against trey songz but he would destroy trey

same with Kanye and Drake. Kanye ain’t made music people care about in 10 years

People didn’t care about TLOP Lmaoo? That album and Views literally defined 2016