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Not even sure what Joe is trying to argue with this being the "worst time to be a rapper' shyt. His argument isn't making any sense even if there is a point in there somewhere.
 

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Not even sure what Joe is trying to argue with this being the "worst time to be a rapper' shyt. His argument isn't making any sense even if there is a point in there somewhere.
Joe just likes to act like the rap game didn’t retire him, but that he chose to become a podcaster cause it’s so much more profitable and wonderful.

It’s the same shyt he does when he tries to act like the RnB game is such a wonderful place.

Faux psychologist warning but…
Whenever Joe doesn’t believe his own arguments, shyt doesn’t make sense.
 
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Not even sure what Joe is trying to argue with this being the "worst time to be a rapper' shyt. His argument isn't making any sense even if there is a point in there somewhere.
I think his point is because it's so easy to make a record now, that it's way more competition and noise for you to cut through. Before in the 90s, even if a rapper was talented, it was still a whole process to even get a record recorded. You needed money for studio time, had to find a producer, then you had to get the song pressed up and then make a bunch of copies. It was time consuming and costly. Now you can literally record an entire album on your iphone and upload it in an hour. It's just so much competition now. Not even counting all the other means of entertainment we have now, it's a different world.
 

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Not even sure what Joe is trying to argue with this being the "worst time to be a rapper' shyt. His argument isn't making any sense even if there is a point in there somewhere.
Especially odd when the last time they had this discussion everyone including Joe said it's the best time to be a rapper. Due to the fact it's the easiest time to get on and find a lane due to all the money to be made. Also the fact you can
blow up w/o a label due to social media.
 

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Joe just likes to act like the rap game didn’t retire him, but that he chose to become a podcaster cause it’s so much more profitable and wonderful.

It’s the same shyt he does when he tries to act like the RnB game is such a wonderful place.

Faux psychologist warning but…
Whenever Joe doesn’t believe his own arguments, shyt doesn’t make sense.

Right. Nicca either move the goalposts or change his argumentative stance every other podcast AS WELL AS in the midst of a current argument like a true psycho...



I think his point is because it's so easy to make a record now, that it's way more competition and noise for you to cut through. Before in the 90s, even if a rapper was talented, it was still a whole process to even get a record recorded. You needed money for studio time, had to find a producer, then you had to get the song pressed up and then make a bunch of copies. It was time consuming and costly. Now you can literally record an entire album on your iphone and upload it in an hour. It's just so much competition now. Not even counting all the other means of entertainment we have now, it's a different world.

Idk. I dint hear too much of that per se. But then again, he isn't one for making a clear point but swear he could've been an extra in The Great Debaters or some shyt. Seemed like he was mainly focused on talking about the backing then from big labels and the backing now and how easy it was for them to "create" an artist or take a trend and maximize it (ala Trinidad) and that being easier back then compared to now. And also touching on the argument of it being organic vs "plant" like.

Regardless of what side you're on though, his whole argument was just silly (to me). It was all over the place and he tried to pull an Ali every time Ish or Ice had him boxed in.



Especially odd when the last time they had this discussion everyone including Joe said it's the best time to be a rapper. Due to the fact it's the easiest time to get on and find a lane due to all the money to be made. Also the fact you can
blow up w/o a label due to social media.

Like I said, duke switches arguments anytime it benefits him. Even Thomas on that friend of the show called him on that bullshyt lol.

You could easily make a video montage of him arguing against himself like somebody did with Stephen A and Skip lol


 

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I thought Joe was joking about Cokechella



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I'm just listening to the Wed pod and what the hell is Ice and Joe talking about re: 1st week sales?? Did they really get on that platform and say that labels don't care about 1st weeks?? They are being disingenuous about this because some of the ppl they've been championing aren't the "big steppers" they thought they were(Latto, Fivio, etc).

The real conversation should be about how social media relevance can skew artists and their teams idea of how truly popular they are. Coi's most popular songs were on that album that only did 11k, Fivio had Kanye feature and executive produce and couldn't scrape 30k, Latto with all her controversy and features didn't do much better. Now these artists can still build on their singles with some solid promo but let's not act like Columbia, Republic and nem' ain't looking at these numbers frowning.
 

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I'm just listening to the Wed pod and what the hell is Ice and Joe talking about re: 1st week sales?? Did they really get on that platform and say that labels don't care about 1st weeks?? They are being disingenuous about this because some of the ppl they've been championing aren't the "big steppers" they thought they were(Latto, Fivio, etc).

The real conversation should be about how social media relevance can skew artists and their teams idea of how truly popular they are. Coi's most popular songs were on that album that only did 11k, Fivio had Kanye feature and executive produce and couldn't scrape 30k, Latto with all her controversy and features didn't do much better. Now these artists can still build on their singles with some solid promo but let's not act like Columbia, Republic and nem' ain't looking at these numbers frowning.
Yep, like someone said earlier in the thread. If the labels fukking with the numbers and they fake..........why wouldnt they have they artists albums selling 100k? It doesnt make sense for them not to.
They were just talkin about Rap vs RnB a few pods ago. RnB artist may only do 30k first week, but they gonna do that 30k weekly for a year. Fivio/Coi not no acts that's gonn do 30k for a year.
 
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