The Official Joe Budden Podcast Thread

[Cladyclad]

The problem is it wasn’t close to the biggest or most impactful album of that year (DAMN was). I’m not saying people weren’t allowed to like 444 more. I’m saying an album that a lot of people were tepid on became a rallying cry for Jigga stans in the media.

Not to mention it only going plat due to Sprint buying a million copies. It’s a dope album I liked but the entire media hoopla was hilarious to me. I remember Bdot trying to argue it had more impact than DAMN during the 2017 lists and yea…agenda shyt. To me that was Jay’s first album without hits in ages yet it wasn’t perceived that way by certain media folks.

That’s BDot opinion lol

444 would easily went plat without sprint

and story of oj went gold. That shows the impact of that album. That song should not been that successful

 

[spliz]

That’s BDot opinion lol

444 would easily went plat without sprint

and story of oj went gold. That shows the impact of that album. That song should not been that successful

If it would’ve easily went plat without sprint it would’ve with double with the Sprint shyt

 

[Cladyclad]

If it would’ve easily went plat without sprint it would’ve with double with the Sprint shyt

The shyt sold 276k its 2nd week
The first week was a tidal exclusive
On top of sprint giving away 1 million
No Spotify
And not to mention being bootleg over 1 million times during tidal exclusivity

That’s about impressive as it could be for 99% of albums

only drake album was more bootleg that year

 

[Piff Perkins]

That’s BDot opinion lol

444 would easily went plat without sprint

and story of oj went gold. That shows the impact of that album. That song should not been that successful

Good point on OJ but I disagree on the album. 260 first week, 87 second week, with one song people listened to a lot (but not a whole lot). If you mean it would have eventually gone platinum in 2025 sure I guess.

Bdot’s opinion shifts depending on what agenda he’s pushing. When he’s pushing Griselda suddenly sales and relevance don’t matter. When he’s pushing Drake/CLB suddenly bars and quality of album don’t matter. It’s about who can do what for you, when. Which gets us back to Jay…

 

[Cladyclad]

Good point on OJ but I disagree on the album. 260 first week, 87 second week, with one song people listened to a lot (but not a whole lot). If you mean it would have eventually gone platinum in 2025 sure I guess.

Bdot’s opinion shifts depending on what agenda he’s pushing. When he’s pushing Griselda suddenly sales and relevance don’t matter. When he’s pushing Drake/CLB suddenly bars and quality of album don’t matter. It’s about who can do what for you, when. Which gets us back to Jay…

260 is 2nd week

Tidal didn’t report numbers for the first week

 

[spliz]

The shyt sold 276k its 2nd week
The first week was a tidal exclusive
On top of sprint giving away 1 million
No Spotify
And not to mention being bootleg over 1 million times during tidal exclusivity

That’s about impressive as it could be for 99% of albums

only drake album was more bootleg that year

Is the album double yet? Ok then. Lol

 

[Cladyclad]

Is the album double yet? Ok then. Lol

U do know how certs work right?

watch the throne was only plat for the longest. Then last year it was 5x

 

[spliz]

U do know how certs work right?

watch the throne was only plat for the longest. Then last year it was 5x

So. U feel like. An album with zero hit singles aside from Story Of OJ. Is that crazy at this point? WTT had some of the most popular songs of the generation on it.

 

[Harry B]

The problem is it wasn’t close to the biggest or most impactful album of that year (DAMN was). I’m not saying people weren’t allowed to like 444 more. I’m saying an album that a lot of people were tepid on became a rallying cry for Jigga stans in the media.

Not to mention it only going plat due to Sprint buying a million copies. It’s a dope album I liked but the entire media hoopla was hilarious to me. I remember Bdot trying to argue it had more impact than DAMN during the 2017 lists and yea…agenda shyt. To me that was Jay’s first album without hits in ages yet it wasn’t perceived that way by certain media folks.

It only went play in 1 hour due to Sprint*.

Facts are the album did 260k first week without sprint. A vast majority of those sales, like 170-200k, were physical/traditional sales cause the album was a tidal exclusive and then Jay removed all his music from Spotify etc.

The album was then followed by his biggest solo tour to date. Bigger than many of the tours in which he had big opening acts and collabo tours.

If you wanna talk numbers, keep it factual and put in context.

 

[Cladyclad]

So. U feel like. An album with zero hit singles aside from Story Of OJ. Is that crazy at this point? WTT had some of the most popular songs of the generation on it.

The shyt sold 260 and went gold in a lil over a month lol

it took Nas 8 years with life is good to go gold. U really think jay album just stop selling after a month?

 

[Piff Perkins]

260 is 2nd week

Tidal didn’t report numbers for the first week

Because no one has tidal. 260 was the official first full sales week.
JAY-Z Scores 14th No. 1 Album on Billboard 200 Chart With ‘4:44’ | Billboard – Billboard

So 260, 87, etc. 640k at the end of 2017 according to Wikipedia (399k pure sales). It would have gone plat. Eventually.

I’m just saying we saw media agendas in full display with that album, which had no hits and didn’t do typical Hov numbers. If people embraced it as the dope personal project it was I’d have no issue. But instead…

 

[FukyourFort]

You Nas Stan's literally need therapy.

This is not healthy

 

[Busted_Toes]

I hate this Hovenger shyt.. corny as fukk.

 

[Legalese]

I would take Wayne in his prime over any hip hop artist in a verzuz, but Wayne in his current condition could lose to Hov.

Lox vs dips comparison is apt

 

[Harry B]

I hate this Hovenger shyt.. corny as fukk.

Be mad about brehs enjoying another brehs art, brehs.