The Official Israel-Gaza Thread

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he's o-2.

He has Trump liberating black people wild wide and Trump liberating Gazans and holding Israel accountable.

he either likes long odds or isn't truly invested in the outcomes that he champions

 

[CrimsonTider]

Kind of dishonest to say Biden initiated a genocide. Who initiated the conflict last year? You can say Biden aided an ally that went too far in retribution but you can’t say he initiated the conflict.

We also can’t ignore the fact that Trump held up the ceasefire deal so in a way Trump was rewarded for playing political games with Palestinian lives.



Well your what if would drastically change Kamala’s campaign, be more specific. How exactly would she be courting white supremacist in your hypothetical?


It’s a legitimate electoral issue but as we can see Trump is much worse than Biden/Kamala on foreign policy

They refuse to blame Hamas

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Food for thought

Opinion | The Political Future of Palestinians, According to Palestinians

Times Opinion spoke to five Palestinian scholars and analysts about what they believe the future holds for their people.

www.nytimes.com

 

[wire28]

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he's o-2.

He has Trump liberating black people wild wide and Trump liberating Gazans and holding Israel accountable.

We all are wrong time to time but keeping it a buck that is a life defining L right there

 

[King Kreole]

Kind of dishonest to say Biden initiated a genocide. Who initiated the conflict last year? You can say Biden aided an ally that went too far in retribution but you can’t say he initiated the conflict.

Eh, ok sure I won't quibble with the language here. Biden aided and abetted a genocide.

We also can’t ignore the fact that Trump held up the ceasefire deal so in a way Trump was rewarded for playing political games with Palestinian lives.

If Harris won she would have been rewarded for playing political games with Palestinian lives as well. This is my point, the Harris campaign made sure that there was no pro-Palestinian option on the ballot.

Well your what if would drastically change Kamala’s campaign, be more specific. How exactly would she be courting white supremacist in your hypothetical?

Well yes, that's the point of a hypothetical. If you want more specifics, let's say the Harris campaign enacts a ban on any black person from appearing on stage at the DNC, removes any policy from her platform that was designed to redress any harms specifically done to the black community, refuses to meet with any black civil rights organizations. And imagine all of this was taking place during a wave of mass shootings targeting black gatherings where the shooters were being funnelled weapons by the Biden-Harris administration. Would you be criticizing black voters for not being motivated to turn out for the Harris campaign in this hypothetical?

It’s a legitimate electoral issue but as we can see Trump is much worse than Biden/Kamala on foreign policy

I don't think we're seeing that yet.

 

[Outlaw]

Well yes, that's the point of a hypothetical. If you want more specifics, let's say the Harris campaign enacts a ban on any black person from appearing on stage at the DNC, removes any policy from her platform that was designed to redress any harms specifically done to the black community, refuses to meet with any black civil rights organizations. And imagine all of this was taking place during a wave of mass shootings targeting black gatherings where the shooters were being funnelled weapons by the Biden-Harris administration. Would you be criticizing black voters for not being motivated to turn out for the Harris campaign in this hypothetical?


I don't think we're seeing that yet.

That hypothetical is too outlandish and isn’t analogous to what actually happened. Kamala would undoubtedly be worse for the black community than the 2024 Trump campaign. Even you concede that Kamala would have been better for Gaza than Trump.

A better hypothetical would be if Kamala froze out Black Lives Matter if there was George Floyd type civil unrest in 2024, in that scenario black people should still vote for Kamala over Trump.

 

[88m3]

Trump Receives Golden Pager Gift From Netanyahu

The strange-looking gift commemorates Israel’s attack on Hezbollah operatives last fall using thousands of explosive pagers and walkie-talkies.

www.twz.com

umm...

 

[88m3]

The Blogs: Hamas killed Thai nationals deliberately

The terrorists called to the workers from Thailand in their native tongue to lure them out of hiding, only to kill them or take them hostage

blogs.timesofisrael.com

@Mister Terrific

 

[88m3]

So we're not talking talking about Trump demanding all hostages and bodies are released by Saturday?

I figured the expectation was at least the 3. Is this being widely reported?