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What sanctions? Who is going to sanction Israel? Are you talking about real economic sanctions or symbolic sanctions?
I believe most of the world is itching to put sanctions on Israel. We stand in the way and in return they treat us like a two dollar hoe.

Imagine the Speaker of the House getting on the phone with Net and Yahoo to talk shyt about the current president of the United States. A foreign leader demanding that we crack down on our kids for talking shyt about him. Laws been passed all over the country that it’s against the law to call for divestment.

It’s pathetic.
 

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I believe most of the world is itching to put sanctions on Israel. We stand in the way and in return they treat us like a two dollar hoe.

Imagine the Speaker of the House getting on the phone with Net and Yahoo to talk shyt about the current president of the United States. A foreign leader demanding that we crack down on our kids for talking shyt about him. Laws been passed all over the country that it’s against the law to call for divestment.

It’s pathetic.
How are we standing in the way of China, India, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Indonesia, or the myriad of majority Muslim countries from putting sanctions on Israel? You don’t need to go through the UN to sanction a country.


China is Israel’s largest import partner. How does the U.S. have a say in what China sells to Israel?
 

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How are we standing in the way of China, India, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Indonesia, or the myriad of majority Muslim countries from putting sanctions on Israel? You don’t need to go through the UN to sanction a country.


China is Israel’s largest import partner. How does the U.S. have a say in what China sells to Israel?

None of those nations want any smoke with the U.S by putting sanctions on Israel. If Israel was standing on its own two feet, we are talking about a completely different dynamic.

The US has passed unconstitutional anti BDS laws against its own citizens, how far do you think they’ll go against other nation states that pass BDS measures?
 

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None of those nations want any smoke with the U.S by putting sanctions on Israel. If Israel was standing on its own two feet, we are talking about a completely different dynamic.

The US has passed unconstitutional anti BDS laws against its own citizens, how far do you think they’ll go against other nation states that pass BDS measures?
If China cut trade with Israel tomorrow, recognized Palestine, and declared Israel is illegally occupying Palestinian lands, what would the U.S. realistically do?
 

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How are we standing in the way of China, India, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Indonesia, or the myriad of majority Muslim countries from putting sanctions on Israel? You don’t need to go through the UN to sanction a country.


China is Israel’s largest import partner.
How does the U.S. have a say in what China sells to Israel?
Did not know all that :ohhh:
 

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What sanctions? Who is going to sanction Israel? Are you talking about real economic sanctions or symbolic sanctions?
We could impose the same kind of sanctions we use against Russia/Russians for the invasion of Ukraine.

Barring actual sanctions, we could try holding Israel to the same standard that we hold ALL aid recipients, but we both know the WH doesn't have the will to do that, which is what makes them complicit in Israel's crimes.
 

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You guys don't need to play the hypothetical game with that zionist. He's trying to muddy the waters.
All you need to do is look at the 42 times the US has used it's veto power to protect Israel in the UN.

If a resolution passes in the UN, it is legally binding and all the member states are required to act on it, so when the US vetos these resolutions it is protecting Israel from the consequences of violating international law. If a resolution targeting Israel was allowed to pass, and Israel were to ignore the resolution, the UN would need to call for sanctions and member states would need to follow.

Note that this article is from 2021.
 

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You guys don't need to play the hypothetical game with that zionist. He's trying to muddy the waters.
All you need to do is look at the 42 times the US has used it's veto power to protect Israel in the UN.

If a resolution passes in the UN, it is legally binding and all the member states are required to act on it, so when the US vetos these resolutions it is protecting Israel from the consequences of violating international law. If a resolution targeting Israel was allowed to pass, and Israel were to ignore the resolution, the UN would need to call for sanctions and member states would need to follow.

Note that this article is from 2021.
What do resolutions have to do with individual sanctions :mjlol: The U.S. can’t pass resolutions against Russia because Russia has veto powers in the UN. We can damn sure sanction them. That doesn’t stop China or India from doing business with Russia bypassing our sanctions, it’s their prerogative.

Russia vetoes Security Council resolution condemning attempted annexation of Ukraine regions​



Sanctions against Russia and the Role of the United Nations

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The three-month period between the build-up of Russian troops on the Ukrainian border and the invasion in February 2022 gave Western countries time to build an informal coalition to impose deterrent measures against Russia. Not only is this coalition unusual for its high level of coordination, it is extraordinary in that it has been accompanied by a broad disengagement from Russia by civil society actors from across the world.
The United Nations Security Council (UNSC) was designed to prevent major powers from abandoning the organisation, as they had its predecessor, the League of Nations. Giving the veto to five permanent (or non-elected) members effectively removes them from consequences when their actions, or those of their client states, come under review. This means that globally binding resolutions imposing restrictive measures cannot be applied to the permanent members by the Security Council, since they will invariably veto them.

As a result of the UN’s inability to apply sanctions on permanent members of the Security Council, [bcountries have for decades designed and imposed sanctions of their own[/b], with varying degrees of coordination. The United States (US) has been the most active when it comes to imposing sanctions, adopting a large number of country and thematic sanctions regimes and making the largest number of individual designations (of individual persons and entities).

Imposing sanctions is not just a “Western” practice, however. Not only have Japan, South Korea and Singapore participated in applying sanctions on Russia, but Russia, China and India, not to mention regional organisations like the African Union and the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS), have a long history of using sanctions as an instrument of foreign policy or regional peace-making. They may declare their opposition to sanctions in general terms, but virtually everyone uses them.




China remains Israel's largest source of imports in 2023​

Source: Xinhua
Editor: huaxia
2024-01-22 02:27:45
JERUSALEM, Jan. 21 (Xinhua) -- China kept its position as Israel's largest source of commodity imports for the fourth consecutive year in 2023, data released by Israel's Central Bureau of Statistics showed on Sunday.

In 2023, Israeli imports from China amounted to 11.2 billion U.S. dollars, with the main imports being machinery, electrical and electronic equipment, textiles, electric cars, chemicals, rubber, and plastics.






There is absolutely nothing stopping the rest of the world from sanctioning Israel. Countries impose unilateral sanctions and trade restrictions all the time.


Now run a long and go put your scarf on and do a little dance that nobody in power cares about like the rest of the Hamas revolutionary larpers :mjlol:
 

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"Billionaires should pay their fair share of taxes."
"Nothing is stopping you from paying extra taxes if you want!"
Just recycling the same right wing talking point into a different context.

The question is, what do individual sanctions have to do with the US protecting Israel from the UN calling for all member states to impose sanctions? Nothing. Israel doesn't have veto power. So, just a fascist trying to muddy the waters then. I'd respond with "inflaming tensions with the US is something countries try to avoid" and he would respond with some bullshyt trying to downplay the fact. Just a waste of everyone's time. There's no point in arguing with genocide supporters, because there is no good faith argument they can make.
 

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Crazy that Hamas set this sequence of events into action and people are still advocating for them to govern Gaza or anywhere for that matter.

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