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Dude said that with his whole chest like voting Republican is ever advantageous. Such an enlightened independent

I can’t think of a more noble reason to sit out this important Presidential election than as a protest to a Biden support of a genocide.

“Blue no matter what” voters don’t get to dictate another person’s threshold for bullshyt.
 

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Would be a great time for Hamas to step up and release the hostages. It would go a long way in disarming Netanyahu politically and militarily.

So Net and Yahoo needs for a terrorist organization to release hostages or he’ll kill thousands more innocent Palestinians? Very moral position.

You sound crazy as hell. Israel has rotted your brains and corrupted you morally.
 

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I hate to admit it but this issue gives credence to the notion that Biden is too old.


It feels like Blinken and Kirby are really running this war 2 unelected bureaucrats not Bidens old ass.
 

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I can’t think of a more noble reason to sit out this important Presidential election than as a protest to a Biden support of a genocide.

“Blue no matter what” voters don’t get to dictate another person’s threshold for bullshyt.
Noble maybe but stupid definitely. If Trump wins everyone loses, including the Palestinian
 

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So Net and Yahoo needs for a terrorist organization to release hostages or he’ll kill thousands more innocent Palestinians? Very moral position.

You sound crazy as hell. Israel has rotted your brains and corrupted you morally.

It's not only a terrorist organization but the government that is in control of Gaza. Hamas has declared war on Israel and is the aggressor in this latest conflict. The Palestinians that are dying are result of Hama's actions and policies and unwillingness to resolve this conflict. No one is saying that it is moral.

Do you really think Hamas doesn't have a role in trying to resolve this conflict? If so you're lockstep with the Israeli government much more than I am.

You might not like it but Hamas should have released the hostages months ago and committed to an unconditional surrender.

A lot of lives and critical infrastructure would have been saved.

Bibi could've even been pushed from power by now and the US would have had more leverage to reign in Israel if the hostages were released.
 

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It's not only a terrorist organization but the government that is in control of Gaza. Hamas has declared war on Israel and is the aggressor in this latest conflict. The Palestinians that are dying are result of Hama's actions and policies and unwillingness to resolve this conflict. No one is saying that it is moral.

Do you really think Hamas doesn't have a role in trying to resolve this conflict? If so you're lockstep with the Israeli government much more than I am.

You might not like it but Hamas should have released the hostages months ago and committed to an unconditional surrender.

A lot of lives and critical infrastructure would have been saved.
A fundamental part of their argument is to somehow separate Hamas from being the elected government in Gaza and also being popular.

It’s really interesting. We’ve seen this theory pushed to the point of suggesting Hamas is a puppet government controlled by Bibi.

But I think the most telling part is, it makes it clear, their issue isn’t merely with the reckless attacks by the IDF, but they genuinely don’t believe Israel has a right to exist.

Let’s not forget the mass celebrations, belief that the IDF were walking into a trap, and that a ground invasion was impossible.

Then add on that this was going to invoke a larger regional war that has yet to materialize and doesn’t seem to be.

Strangely enough, the same folks condemning Bibi’s barbarism and believe there’s a need for a new government, fight you every time you suggest that Hamas needs to go too. Or even worse, pushing back against the claim that they need to let the hostages go.
 

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Figthing borg at Wolf 359

Perplexed Israelis woke up Thursday in Tel Aviv to find that map applications on their phones were placing them in Lebanon’s capital, Beirut, some 130 miles to the north. Cabdrivers couldn’t navigate. Food-delivery apps were temporarily out of service.



The reason: The Israeli military was scrambling GPS signals, as the country braces for possible retaliation by Iran or one of its allied militias for a suspected Israeli airstrike Monday on an Iranian diplomatic building in Syria
 
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