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At this point it’s safe to say Israel didn’t take advantage of the opportunity, they created the opportunity.

Israel has one of if not thee most advanced military and intelligence agencies in the world second only to the United States and also the most advanced border control in the world. It’s impossible for Hamas to commit an attack on the scale of Oct. 7 without Israeli concession. We also know that they were fully aware of the planned attack beforehand and even killed their own citizens in an attempt to bolster the death count.
Even if that’s true you’re admitting that Hamas is useful idiots for Israel. True or not Hamas needs to be destroyed for the betterment of the Palestinian people.
 

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What Hamas did in October 7th was not self defense. Kidnapping and holding hostages is not self defense.

India, Africans in South Africa both gained their independence without a violent revolution and also African Americans in the US.

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Look at this retarded nonsense.

The British put down violent riots and rebellions in India in the years heading to independence... And they got the fukk out of dodge of India and much of Africa, not because of the goodness of their hearts or Kumbaya singing protesters, but because they feared having to fight colonial peoples in the aftermath of WW2. Oh, and they saw the French getting their asses kicked in, in Vietnam and Algeria :pachaha:

The ANC started non-violent. Then the Apartheid regime retaliated with terrorism. And then the ANC formed an armed wing, who's first generation focused on infrastructure sabotage at first. Once they got nuked/imprisoned, the second generation got more savage and violent, with the intent of making South Africa ungovernable. Apartheid collapsed partly because of the economic costs of maintaining high security in the country and funding it's military fighting ANC and ANC allies across Southern Africa. There was nothing non-violent about the resistance in South Africa.

And I don't have to say much on the black struggle in America, but you're deluded if you think the movement was wholly non-violent, and the passage of several acts were not driven by the threat of violence, which escalated and exploded in the form of riots across the city before and after a non-violent leader, MLK was violently killed.

Get the fukk out of here with your pro-oppression babble :mjlol:
 

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