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Israel doesn’t need America to protect themselves from Palestinians, unless those Palestinians are being backed by lots of other richer nations. Hence the lines and Alliances.
So you do need protecting.

A functioning Palestinian state means it has economic and military ties with it neighbors Like Jordan and Egypt. Free flow of Muslims from other countries and migration for work.

I‘m not even talking about them trying to deport or kill Israelis. Their population is younger and have larger families.

Israel is outnumbered unless the west presses it finger on the scale.
 

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So you do need protecting.

A functioning Palestinian state means it has economic and military ties with it neighbors Like Jordan and Egypt. Free flow of Muslims from other countries and migration for work.

I‘m not even talking about them trying to deport or kill Israelis. Their population is younger and have larger families.

Israel is outnumbered unless the west presses it finger on the scale.
Those countries aren’t choosing to not help Palestine cause they are afraid of America.

The current state of Palestine serves interests in the Arab world.
 

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Those countries aren’t choosing to not help Palestine cause they are afraid of America.

The current state of Palestine serves interests in the Arab world.
Egypt is dependent on American aid. Jordan is already home to a ton of Syrian refugees.

Most of the Middle East can’t handle the fallout of trying to dislodge the Israelis and the ones that could are already on everyone’s list of targets and under heavy sanctions like Iran. Saudis royals don’t care but I’m sure they don’t want the fallout either after what they went through in Yemen,
 

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The ADL said in a statement to the Guardian that Greenblatt spoke to Botstein “to convey serious concerns over the course”.
“The entire premise of this course slanders and delegitimizes the democratic state of Israel,” it said. “At a time of surging rates of antisemitic incidents in the United States, some of the most inciteful taking place on college campuses, ADL is unapologetic in our advocacy for Israel and the Jewish people. We will continue to work tirelessly against efforts that delegitimize Israel and vilify Jews and we stand by our belief that courses like this should not exist because of the fallacies they are based upon.”

The course was also denounced by local Jewish groups. The Ulster County Jewish Federation wrote to Botstein calling it a “detestable example of anti-Semitism masquerading as academic freedom”.

The UCJF’s executive director, David Drimer, told a local newspaper, the Daily Freeman, that Bard was influenced in its decision to hold the course by a $500m endowment to the college from George Soros who has been at the centre of antisemitic conspiracy theories on the right.

Drimer wrote to Botstein attempting to link Thrall to Hamas.
“This class is wrong in its inception, and we are ethically compelled to point out why: Nathan Thrall is heavily financed by the government by Qatar, a leading funder of Hamas and other officially designated terrorist groups,” he said.

Thrall previously worked for the International Crisis Group which received a donation from Qatar after he left.
“Must we accept as coincidence Mr Soros finances Mr Thrall and Bard?” Drimer added. “I am compelled to connect the dots.”

Botstein responded to the UCJF letter saying that “as a child of survivors of the Holocaust I am more sensitive than most” to antisemitism.
“There is nothing antisemitic about the course in question. It explores questions that have been the subject of debate in Israel for years. Why should the Jewish community in America be afraid of the same debates and arguments taking place in Israel?” he said.
wow, saying israel is practicing apartheid is antisemtic. soon they'll say if you claim they are doing anything wrong that you're being antisemetic because jews are incapable of doing anything wrong as the primary victims of nazi germany's holocaust.

i guess we need to try this. as the victims of chattel slavery we are incapable of doing anything wrong so if you criticize us you're racist.

and soros is the enemy of right wing jews as well.
 

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Egypt is dependent on American aid. Jordan is already home to a ton of Syrian refugees.

Most of the Middle East can’t handle the fallout of trying to dislodge the Israelis and the ones that could are already on everyone’s list of targets and under heavy sanctions like Iran. Saudis royals don’t care but I’m sure they don’t want the fallout either after what they went through in Yemen,
So everyone else decided it was better for their society to play nice instead of fight :ehh:
 

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So everyone else decided it was better for their society to play nice instead of fight :ehh:
More like Israel can be ignored. It’s not like the Middle East doesn‘t have internal beefs going on. Saudi started the war in Yemen. The Assad regime and the civil war. Iraq and Iran. Taliban and Pakistan. Lebanaon’s economy in shambles. Kurds and Turkey.

Hamas and Hezbollah being funded from Iran isn’t something they celebrate.


The fact Israel can’t levy those wide dislikes of Iran meddling into normalized relationships with other neighbors tells you how little anyone wants to deal with them.
 

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More like Israel can be ignored. It’s not like the Middle East doesn‘t have internal beefs going on. Saudi started the war in Yemen. The Assad regime and the civil war. Iraq and Iran. Taliban and Pakistan. Lebanaon’s economy in shambles. Kurds and Turkey.

Hamas and Hezbollah being funded from Iran isn’t something they celebrate.


The fact Israel can’t levy those wide dislikes of Iran meddling into normalized relationships with other neighbors tells you how little anyone wants to deal with them.
So like I said, the current state of Palestine serves the interests of other Arab nations in the region.
 
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