The Official Israel-Gaza Thread
This gonna be our life in January, watch
He's making the right-wing "all war should be total war" argument, the pro-violence extremist idea that our wars only fail to achieve their objectives when we don't fight them hard enough. It's the same excuse we see used over and over again when violence fails. He's using that argument both to justify the killing of Palestinian civilians right now, and to create some sort of false history of the Middle East where all their problems are somehow the result of not killing enough people. then he threw in the ridiculous subargument that American soverignity is just hanging on a tiny thread of war crimes and we'd be invaded and occupied if we hadn't been willing to commit so many war crimes. My position is that is historical, logical, and moral nonsense.
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Excellent interview with Israeli historian Ilan Pappe.
24:32 interviews starts
24:32 interviews starts
I didn’t realize this went viral
ADevilYouKhow
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What is your best final solution? Is it historical, logical, and moral? Do you think a one state solution is still possible?
We could pay Egpyt $750B for the land that would become Palestine in the Sinai and then add another secret $250B for under the table funds etc that would be used to get people to move faster and to cut the necessary deals to make it happen.
Then we’d tell palestinians to remember that the Kurds dont even have a country…and theres 2-3x more of them than the palestinians and they’re not going to ever get Israel back as long as they have nukes so they better find god in the their new home cause the world doesn’t give a fukk anymore.
Gonna be hard to reconcile that America needs to pay reparations to Palestinians but not black Americans.
I'm not an expert in the region at all, but I don't see how a one-state solution is possible with all the mistrust that's been built. It reminds me of the India-Pakistan errors, where perhaps the ground for a positive one-state solution could have been built in the 1910s-20s when things were just getting started, but the British fukked shyt up, used division to their own advantage, and the biggest haters on both sides were allowed to take over the narrative and capitalize on distrust of the British to inflame long-standing animosities and poison the well. By the time "independence" happened in 1948, it would have been difficult to get either side to accept leadership from the other side. And for good reason - neither side has proven it can rule the other side in good faith. So a two-state solution is the only choice I see.
This is the passion that HL has been craving from a democrat.
I don’t know if you can defeat Biden in your primary challenge, but I know you got some votes locked up on here 
