Bill Maher was showing his whole fukking ass 
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The Official Israel-Gaza Thread
mastermind
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I didn’t misunderstand your post. The west will support Israel regardless of what they do. They are ahistorical and extremely reactionary leaders and governments.There's a disconnect somewhere, you're talking about something else.
US already warning Israel.
U.S. officials privately warn Israel to show restraint in retaliating against Hamas
In meetings in Israel, U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin conveyed to Israeli leaders that it’s important to observe international rules of warfare.www.nbcnews.com
There was barely any criticism in the west when the IDF were popping peaceful protestors. They defended Israel dropping bombs and killing hundreds over Molotov cocktails. The west let’s Israel to do what they want.
Exactly. All they'll do is say we warned them while supplying all the weapons to do all the mass executions.
Genocide is genocide. Whether they're killed or dead you're the one that supported pulling the trigger. Biden is no different than Trump in this regard and where a both sides argument is actually right. Republicans support outright slaughter. Dems do to but they at least wrap it in a bow before supporting death and destruction.
I dunno, I think folks are trying to have a discussion the administration isn’t really getting involved in.
I don’t even think the decisions are moral or ethical decisions being made. Just general geopolitics. The Us isn’t going to weaken its strategic foothold in the region by weakening Israel.
Similarly, we know the key reason for the US involvement in Russia is to weaken Russia and further strengthen our presence in the region.
Good. You peddle propaganda, you now get to see actual reality
ADevilYouKhow
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Man jumps into World Trade Center Memorial reflecting pool
The man jumped into the north reflecting pool and was taken out.
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and you're such a groupie for zionism, I always wondered why, but now that you're a confirmed indian it makes sense since you all love zionism.
So we shrug our shoulders and watch this play out. The US making the decision they made to support Israel is expected, but I applaud people who have opened their eyes to see the level of blatant wickedness on display here, from Hamas initially but now wholly from Israel.
Hopefully this becomes a catalyst for change.
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Ozymandeas
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I read all three (NYT, WSJ, WaPo + Axios/Insider for quick news). I prefer WSJ but, as you said, stick to the news reporting. Once you go into the editorials, it gets MAGA really fast.
I'm not indian...I also reject this idea that Israel is going anywhere.
I mean if they hadn't killed Rabin...who knows
I do think its funny how MLH basically has to juggle all that Hamas/PLO caping he was doing when he got fired from CNN for.
I’m sorry, I’ve been aware of how we’ve operated. This isn’t new to me and shouldn’t be new to you. But framing this is some good guy bad guy black and white ordeal is just attempting to oversimplify the reality.
Kinda wild seeing a British man try and peg this situation solely on the Us
There are two issues at play here, the US response, which doesn't surprise me at all, and the conflict itself which is turning into potential genocide.
If you are speaking to the US response I understand. No one should watch genocide play out and shrug their shoulders, however. This will change the way a lot of people accept a geopolitical worldview. Whether it's enough to stop someone voting for the Dems vs the GOP, that's a conversation to have after the emotion dies down.