The Official "Hyper Liberal Bullshyt" thread

[MeachTheMonster]

Bruh like there are literally volumes written on why meat is scientifically not healthy for you, especially in the quantities we eat it here in the West. On the environmental front we need to cut back on that shyt because its fukkin up the whole ecosystem and all that. Like its a school lunch that the government is providing why can't the government use available facts to dictate policy even on school lunches

Link?

Cause I could show you plenty of studies that show the benefits of eating meat. Some studies have even shown that our ability to cook and eat meat is what made us into the humans we are today.


As for the environmental aspect. If we were to replace cattle farms with some type of fruit/vegetable not only would people starve, but the environment would be worse off with fertilizers,pesticides, deforestation.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Meat, like ALL THINGS EVER CONSUMED BY A HUMAN BEING (including p*ssy) is good for you within reason.

Having steak every single day for a month straight will kill you. Not on day 32 but you are well on your way.

Now having some steak on a Sunday, grilled chicken on a Monday, Fish on Tuesday, maybe burger on Friday. Something like that? That's fine. Especially if the red meat is lean.

I had some Bison last week..shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

 

[The Real]

As for the environmental aspect. If we were to replace cattle farms with some type of fruit/vegetable not only would people starve, but the environment would be worse off with fertilizers,pesticides, deforestation.

Actually this is not true. Most people around the world are poor, and cannot afford to buy meat on a regular basis, whereas they could afford to buy grains and vegetables/fruits, but don't have good access because so much grain/land is being used to feed cattle for the minority who can afford it. Less land used for meat and more for the other stuff would actually reduce starvation by giving people more access to food they can afford. You don't need meat to survive, after all- it's purely supplementary. You can have the exact same nutrition, protein and all, on a vegetarian diet (including milk and eggs) that you can get from a diet full of meat.

The idea that meat is or should be a main course or the primary focus of the human diet comes from a mixture of ignorance and profitable food industry propaganda.

 

[STEVE]

i'm a hyper liberal.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

Actually this is not true. Most people around the world are poor, and cannot afford to buy meat on a regular basis, whereas they could afford to buy grains and vegetables/fruits, but don't have good access because so much grain/land is being used to feed cattle for the minority who can afford it. Less land used for meat and more for the other stuff would actually reduce starvation by giving people more access to food they can afford. You don't need meat to survive, after all- it's purely supplementary. You can have the exact same nutrition, protein and all, on a vegetarian diet (including milk and eggs) that you can get from a diet full of meat.

The idea that meat is or should be a main course or the primary focus of the human diet comes from a mixture of ignorance and profitable food industry propaganda.

But if lean meats are the best source of protien on earth, should they not be the most important part of a healthy diet or meal? Should eggs and milk be the center piece of every meal...and would solve any of the "environmental problems" we have discussed? Farming cows and chickens for reproductive leftovers and not meat?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Actually this is not true. Most people around the world are poor, and cannot afford to buy meat on a regular basis, whereas they could afford to buy grains and vegetables/fruits, but don't have good access because so much grain/land is being used to feed cattle for the minority who can afford it. Less land used for meat and more for the other stuff would actually reduce starvation by giving people more access to food they can afford. You don't need meat to survive, after all- it's purely supplementary. You can have the exact same nutrition, protein and all, on a vegetarian diet (including milk and eggs) that you can get from a diet full of meat.

The idea that meat is or should be a main course or the primary focus of the human diet comes from a mixture of ignorance and profitable food industry propaganda.

People can't live off of grains and food costs would actually go up. There would be less food overall, meaning food prices would go up overall, meaning there would be less people that could afford food.

How could we feed the entire country enough protein with milk and eggs while reducing land used for livestock?

It is VERY difficult to stick to a totally vegetarian diet and still get all the nutrients you need that's why most vegetarians have to take extra vitamins and supplements.

And you are correct meat shouldn't be the primary focus of ones diet. But a well rounded diet including SOME meat is the most healthy way to go.

 

[The Real]

But if lean meats are the best source of protien on earth, should they not be the most important part of a healthy diet or meal? Should eggs and milk be the center piece of every meal...and would solve any of the "environmental problems" we have discussed? Farming cows and chickens for reproductive leftovers and not meat?

I wouldn't say they are necessarily the best source. Lean meats are definitely a very efficient source of protein (most red meat is not, and doesn't really belong in a discussion about healthy foods) but not the only ones, and by some measures, milk is an even better source of protein than meat (it's still animal protein, too, so it's the same,) and it's much cheaper.

Again, though, protein is not the centerpiece of a meal. It's just one important part out of many. I do think using milk and more eggs and other non-animal sources of protein would ultimately solve many of the environmental problems people have pointed out in this thread, though milk needs to be regulated and produced differently since it does share some of the same production problems as meat. I'm not saying meat should be removed from school lunches or anything like that, but ultimately, I don't have a problem with reducing the amount of meat produced for schools, or in general.

Here in the US, especially, people eat meat (especially red meat) as if it's the main source of nutrition for human beings and should always be the main course of a meal, which is a big part of the reason we are such an unhealthy people from a number of standpoints.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

See, now this is a good debate, but the core point is that AAPS decided because of the cool new fat diet movement that elementary kids don't need meat and need pizza and quesadillas instead on Monday.

That, friends, is so demonic.



LOL nah but it IS some some 'hyper-liberal bullshyt'

 

[Brown_Pride]

This is some grandstanding BS IMHO and if my kids went to that school Mondays would be "NY Strip Day Monday"...to honor 9/11.

Of all the things kids need and don't need this is some shyt to change.

How much money do you want to bet that the same kooks pushing this shyt are the same ones who got dodge ball banned? I think the kids would benefit more from eating meat and having and extended recess.

All things in moderation and meat is not evil. If anything keeping a cow for milk vs killing it for meat makes more sense...(I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF CATTLE REARING SO THIS MAY BE COMPLETELY FALSE)

They should OFFER the choice for kids and their parents, not just outright ban meat on mondays.

I'm in the middle of reading an older book right now, "the Testosterone Advantage" and from what i'm reading (again not done or crosschecked the facts or statements yet) but MEN, should be eating meat...in moderation.

 

[Dirty Mcdrawz]

i'm not seeing the problem....

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

wow you nikkas really goin on about this shyt. what are yall really talkin about??? its ONE DAY outta the school week where there's no meat how is that any different from days you ate shyt like cheeze pizza, mashed potatoes, and green beans

 

[DANKTHRONE]

Since the OP is a University of Michigan fan, take a look at this link:

Healing Foods Pyramid provided by the University of Michigan Health System Integrative Medicine

 

[STEVE]

certainly some dumb/uninformed opinions in this thread.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

wow you nikkas really goin on about this shyt. what are yall really talkin about??? its ONE DAY outta the school week where there's no meat how is that any different from days you ate shyt like cheeze pizza, mashed potatoes, and green beans

Problem is it takes options away from kids and their parents. It's not a big deal but what about the lactose intolerant kids? Do they not get any protien on Mondays?

 

[STEVE]

you do realize you can get adequate protein from sources such as quinoa, beans, grain, peanut butter, legumes, and many other sources, correct?