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Tbf the car does seem a bit better but it's still getting weak drs and mclaren have improved much more in the same time.
No doubt they've taken some steps forward since Monaco. The upgrades there were supposed to prove they resolved the correlation issues and then allow a quicker upgrade path. I'm hoping for a new floor and diffuser before the end of the year at the very least, but ideally around the summer break.
 

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Mercedes getting out developed by McLaren so bad that even on softs with drs advantage we can’t get past is a fukking problem.
Arrogance did them in. At the start of all of this both Lewis and George were saying they needed to develop by listening more to them, especially Lewis, and the engineers handwaved them away and now McLaren is looking faster and the Williams was faster at points this weekend. The cost cap shows the engineers there weren't as clever as they thought.

It makes sense that Lewis ain't signed that contract after claiming it was done back in May. I still think he should go to Ferrari who'd roll out the red carpet for him or Williams and force Doralton to give him a piece of the team and bully them into building his perfect car.
 

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Arrogance did them in. At the start of all of this both Lewis and George were saying they needed to develop by listening more to them, especially Lewis, and the engineers handwaved them away and now McLaren is looking faster and the Williams was faster at points this weekend. The cost cap shows the engineers there weren't as clever as they thought.

It makes sense that Lewis ain't signed that contract after claiming it was done back in May. I still think he should go to Ferrari who'd roll out the red carpet for him or Williams and force Doralton to give him a piece of the team and bully them into building his perfect car.
Especially when you remember how shytty McLaren was to start of the season. Their upgrades actually improved the car while with Mercedes it's a guessing game, they really have no idea what's going on. Their mood and season predictions change track to track, upgrades are never early or even on time.

It's especially frustrating considering sacrifices Hamilton was making last year, he was doing everything short of driving the car upside down to figure out what's wrong.
 

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Arrogance did them in. At the start of all of this both Lewis and George were saying they needed to develop by listening more to them, especially Lewis, and the engineers handwaved them away and now McLaren is looking faster and the Williams was faster at points this weekend. The cost cap shows the engineers there weren't as clever as they thought.

It makes sense that Lewis ain't signed that contract after claiming it was done back in May. I still think he should go to Ferrari who'd roll out the red carpet for him or Williams and force Doralton to give him a piece of the team and bully them into building his perfect car.
Nah Lewis should stay far far from Ferrari :russ:. He should go to Red Bull :
 

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George was talking salty after the race saying Piastri was deserving of the last podium place. Nasty work.
When he gets the benefit of the safety cars I don't hear Lewis disparage him.

He sounds like he is out of ideas and frustrated. I have a feeling that Lewis would have gotten past Leclerc if the positions were switched.
 

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When he gets the benefit of the safety cars I don't hear Lewis disparage him.

He sounds like he is out of ideas and frustrated. I have a feeling that Lewis would have gotten past Leclerc if the positions were switched.
No doubt. I guess this isn't the Mercedes George signed up for.
 

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When he gets the benefit of the safety cars I don't hear Lewis disparage him.

He sounds like he is out of ideas and frustrated. I have a feeling that Lewis would have gotten past Leclerc if the positions were switched.
5/5 in qualy, 8/2 in races. And if you take that back to when the "experiments" stopped last season-- the writing is clear. George isn't on the level. A+ talent, but that's not enough and he sees it.
 

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Nah Lewis should stay far far from Ferrari :russ:. He should go to Red Bull :
I think if he went it'd be similar to Schumacher. Anything Schumacher wanted he got from Ferrari. Those Schumacher Ferrari cars were unstoppable. I'm pretty sure they have the second best car in F1 now they just have terrible strategies and inconsistent impatient drivers. Lewis and/or Alonso in those same Ferrari cars would be ahead of everyone that's not in a RBR. They're currently 4th in the constructors and that car ain't that bad.

When he gets the benefit of the safety cars I don't hear Lewis disparage him.

He sounds like he is out of ideas and frustrated. I have a feeling that Lewis would have gotten past Leclerc if the positions were switched.
George is finally seeing the view that Latifi had all those years and don't like it. It seems like Lewis can drive beyond the limits of the car and George can only be as good as the car actually is.
 

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I think if he went it'd be similar to Schumacher. Anything Schumacher wanted he got from Ferrari. Those Schumacher Ferrari cars were unstoppable. I'm pretty sure they have the second best car in F1 now they just have terrible strategies and inconsistent impatient drivers. Lewis and/or Alonso in those same Ferrari cars would be ahead of everyone that's not in a RBR. They're currently 4th in the constructors and that car ain't that bad.
This is a different Ferrari, they don't seem to be concerned with winning races. I remember a scene from Drive to Survive where Vettel and Leclerc were lecture on what they're allowed to say, that wouldn't fly with Lewis.

First Lewis would give those Italians heart attacks talking about human rights and then he would be calling them all types of bytches on the radio when they fukk up his strategy :russ:
 

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Is Williams byke? Albon held his own in the fight for P8 and even Sargent finished P11
Lewis sounded mad :flabbynsick: talking about the McLaren is just too fast
 
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