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also: (breh's don't want to hear it) but his GOAT status will be in danger if Russell beats him again this year.

you can't be GOAT and lose to russell twice, button and rosberg in the same car.
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MFs wanna do everything but give this man his credit.
 

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MFs wanna do everything but give this man his credit.

MFs wanna do anything but address the actual point.

They wanna post memes, they wanna talk about your shoes, they wanna talk about ya mama, they wanna talk about your hair, they wanna talk about imagined bias, they wanna talk about ya papa, they wanna talk about your socks .. they wanna talk about ANYTHING other than the point.

And they want you to think that their point-evading-attack-babble make sense.

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he has all the post competition benefits to get from mercedes. in those terms it's probably a bigger opportunity than Ferrari.

but within the sport Ferrari is the no. 1 seat.

i still think he will leave for Ferrari if he doesn't have a competitive car by the end of this contract.

also: (breh's don't want to hear it) but his GOAT status will be in danger if Russell beats him again this year.

you can't be GOAT and lose to russell twice, button and rosberg in the same car.
You wanna really go there without considering the mitigating circumstances in those years?
The years Verstappen and Alonso lost to teammates aren't considered either?
That is the ultimate bullshyt argument to make to question Lewis' status breh. It reeks of spending too much time in F1 reddit.
 

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MFs wanna do anything but address the actual point.

They wanna post memes, they wanna talk about your shoes, they wanna talk about ya mama, they wanna talk about your hair, they wanna talk about imagined bias, they wanna talk about ya papa, they wanna talk about your socks .. they wanna talk about ANYTHING other than the point.

And they want you to think that their point-evading-attack-babble make sense.

:mjlol:
So the man blitzes the lower categories and gets called up into F1. He misses out on winning WDC in his rookie year by 1 point. Comes back the next year wins it. Has a 5 year drought on championships and still manages to win at least one race per year. Then nearly takes all WDC every year of the turbo hybrid era. Breaks a century of poles and wins. Has wins across 3 decades and various rule changes. But you want to question his GOAT status?

There's no memes here, not talking about your shoes, mom, dad, socks, bias, none of that stuff. This is all straight to the point. Now go ahead and refute it.
 

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You wanna really go there without considering the mitigating circumstances in those years?
The years Verstappen and Alonso lost to teammates aren't considered either?
That is the ultimate bullshyt argument to make to question Lewis' status breh. It reeks of spending too much time in F1 reddit.

let the thing play out.
GOAT has an implicit comparator. how many times did schumi lose to his teammate. look at the all time records.
and I am a notorious non-fan of germans ...
the more important thing is that he is going to ferrari ...
 

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So the man blitzes the lower categories and gets called up into F1. He misses out on winning WDC in his rookie year by 1 point. Comes back the next year wins it. Has a 5 year drought on championships and still manages to win at least one race per year. Then nearly takes all WDC every year of the turbo hybrid era. Breaks a century of poles and wins. Has wins across 3 decades and various rule changes. But you want to question his GOAT status?

There's no memes here, not talking about your shoes, mom, dad, socks, bias, none of that stuff. This is all straight to the point. Now go ahead and refute it.
Not to mention beating the man many regard to be the Goat in his rookie season to the point that Fernando threathened to blackmail Mclaren...
 

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let the thing play out.
GOAT has an implicit comparator. how many times did schumi lose to his teammate. look at the all time records.
and I am a notorious non-fan of germans ...
the more important thing is that he is going to ferrari ...
Horrible, horrible comparison. It's a well known fact that Ferrari teammates were not on equal footing with Schumi. So you can't use that to compare because they were already expected to defer.
Also didn't the same Rosberg beat an older Schumacher at Mercedes?
 

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So the man blitzes the lower categories and gets called up into F1. He misses out on winning WDC in his rookie year by 1 point. Comes back the next year wins it. Has a 5 year drought on championships and still manages to win at least one race per year. Then nearly takes all WDC every year of the turbo hybrid era. Breaks a century of poles and wins. Has wins across 3 decades and various rule changes. But you want to question his GOAT status?

There's no memes here, not talking about your shoes, mom, dad, socks, bias, none of that stuff. This is all straight to the point. Now go ahead and refute it.

"There's no memes here" says breh who just posted an annimated gif along with a personal attack in his response.

anyway THESE ARE THE FACTS.

you do realise that lewis and Schumacher are both tied on 15 consecutive seasons winning at least once race. right? schumi "won at least one race per year." for 15 years just like lewis.

schumi has better season percentage win records, has the same number of overall championships, beat his own teammate and the field to a greater degree, has more speed, consistent speed related all-time records.

just have a look down the record tables. in most tables schumi is above hamilton.


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schumi was more dominant. hamilton is reliably consistent at lower relative speeds.

as am aside: hamilton lost a lot of his F1 youth related records to versteppen, villeneuve and vettel who are not in the GOAT convo - showing that youth != GOAT.

now that doesn't mean that schumi is the GOAT but it does mean that lewis can ill afford to lose against his teammates if he wants to be GOAT.

read the wiki page yourself :ufdup:

there is no argument to be had here. the facts will speak for themselves. one of those facts being losing to his teammates.

let the thing play out.
 

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Horrible, horrible comparison. It's a well known fact that Ferrari teammates were not on equal footing with Schumi. So you can't use that to compare because they were already expected to defer.
Also didn't the same Rosberg beat an older Schumacher at Mercedes?

you need to argue against yourself before pressing post.

hamilton's GOAT status would be endangered by losing FOUR times against his teammate.

that's pretty obvious.

so hammy needs to beat the kid this year.

end of.

if you think it makes no difference then ok :hubie:.

have a look at the F1 records page and my post above.

what is your opinion on the fact that schumi beats hamilton out in most tables for performance.
 

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you need to argue against yourself before pressing post.

hamilton's GOAT status would be endangered by losing FOUR times against his teammate.

that's pretty obvious.

so hammy needs to beat the kid this year.

end of.

if you think it makes no difference then ok :hubie:.

have a look at the F1 records page and my post above.

what is your opinion on the fact that schumi beats hamilton out in most tables for performance.
Rosberg, who Hamilton destroyed multiple times and lost to once, beat Schumacher in three straight seasons. You argument holds no weight. It certainly can't be used for Schumacher whose teammates weren't allowed to compete against him.

Not even getting into how dirty a driver he was.
 

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Rosberg, who Hamilton destroyed multiple times and lost to once, beat Schumacher in three straight seasons. You argument holds no weight. It certainly can't be used for Schumacher whose teammates weren't allowed to compete against him.

Not even getting into how dirty a driver he was.

ok so we agree to let it play out.

lewis is still driving so it could go either way.

also read the wiki page.
 

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ok so we agree to let it play out.

lewis is still driving so it could go either way.

also read the wiki page.
Read them. I look at them every year. Lewis has a higher win and pole percentage. That fastest lap start really isn't what you should be holding on to as proff of anything breh.
 

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Read them. I look at them every year. Lewis has a higher win and pole percentage. That fastest lap start really isn't what you should be holding on to as proff of anything breh.

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anyway i man nah go argue about this all day.

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There's been talk of Lewis leaving Mercedes. I know he wants to win #8, but it's not looking good....
Just press talk because Mercedes car isn't good and he hasn't signed his extension yet.

He won't go anywhere, if Ferrari were competitive maybe he would go there as its Ferrari but they aren't atm.

It's a joke how clear Red Bull is when everyone has had over a year to adjust to the new rules and engineering.
 
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