It does, my brother is in the US poolAmerica has a strange youth development system.
It's a lot of talented kids but by far they focus on just getting to college
It does, my brother is in the US poolAmerica has a strange youth development system.
Has Messi won the South American equivalent to Euros? C. Ronaldo got the Euros Cup (thanks to the yung gawd Renato Sanches)
Maradona took 2 average Argentinian teams to back 2 back world cup finals, the 2nd time was even better considering his ankle was the size of a tennis ball for the whole tournament. He took a non successful Southern Italian team, with only 2 major trophies before his arrival and left them with their 1st ever league title (won 2, while he was there) and 1st ever european title (Uefa Cup / europa league). He basically doubled Napoli's honours in 7 seasons at the club (he won 4 major honours). All the while going up against giants such as Juve & Sacchi's Milan.
The best 2 players Maradona played with when he was Napoli were Alemao & Careca and he won a titles, before they even came to the club.
Maradona played in an era of shyt pitches and where tackling resembled playing American football and you actually had to do something nasty to get a booking.
One of the main reasons why Messi struggles internationally, he doesnt have Iniesta and Xavi controlling the tempo of the game and he has to do everything himself. Argentina blessed with attacking players but midfield is the best midfielder of Messi's Argentina generation is Banega and his career has been up and down can, (had spark when he started, got his leg run over by his own doing, became a drunk, was injury prone, then managed to have a good 2 seasons, moved to Inter and went back to type).
can we plsss stop this narrative of Maradona Myth already
prime Maradona
http://football-ratings.blogspot.com/2012/11/memory-lane-napoli-198687.html
http://football-ratings.blogspot.com/2011/11/memory-lane-serie-1986-87.html
rated 6th on his own team for a season. And that's with teammates that peoplelove to say weren't very good.
but agreed Argetina prduces a million forwards but zero midfielders. they really look like the current Barca without creative mid
so you actually think he was the 6th best player on his team but some people see him as greatest of all time ?!?! damn son have you ever seen him at least on youtube clips ???
can we plsss stop this narrative of Maradona Myth already
prime Maradona
http://football-ratings.blogspot.com/2012/11/memory-lane-napoli-198687.html
http://football-ratings.blogspot.com/2011/11/memory-lane-serie-1986-87.html
rated 6th on his own team for a season. And that's with teammates that peoplelove to say weren't very good.
but agreed Argetina prduces a million forwards but zero midfielders. they really look like the current Barca without creative mid
America has a strange youth development system.
Doesnt matter what the competition is when your team is stacked messi aguero dimaria dybala icardi even (fraud) higuain have more skill than whatever brazil can sum up at the moment, and whats the result arg is in 5th while bra booked their tickets already
I could probably make a case for maradona having a weaker team to support him but im also aware the football changed quite a bit so the comparison cant be exact
However if messi wants the goat crown he needs to show and prove now cuz next years wc could be the last one before flab gets to him, don diego won titles with both club and country and did in style (mano de dios apart) dude was ballin, messi kinda shy for the pumas...
Italian/Spanish/Mainland European sports papers are notorious for their shytty ratings. Depends on which paper it is, where they based and which club theyre pro supporters of. Take papers in Spain like Marca and AS who are Pro Real and Sport and Mundo Deportivo are Pro Barca.
But as your whole argument is based on newspapers rating and it seems you've taken these ratings seriously, let me debunk.
Take a look at this
Football Ratings: Top rated players 2016/17
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6,89 Hazard (Chelsea)
6,86 Mané (Liverpool)
6,70 Robben (Bayern)
6,68 Messi (Barcelona)
6,67 Lewandowski (Bayern)
6,61 Mertens (Napoli), Lallana (Liverpool)
6,60 Dybala (Juventus)
6,59 Ribéry (Bayern)
6,58 Kanté (Chelsea), Alexis Sánchez (Arsenal)
6,56 Silva (Man City), Henderson (Liverpool)
6,55 Thiago Alcântara (Bayern)
6,54 Cuadrado (Juventus), Lahm (Bayern)
6,52 Neuer (Bayern), Lloris (Tottenham)
6,51 Neymar (Barcelona)
6,49 De Bruyne (Man City), Alli (Tottenham)
6,47 Hummels (Bayern)
6,46 Ibrahimović (Man United)
6,45 M. Alonso (Chelsea), C. Eriksen (Tottenham)
6,44 Diego Costa (Chelsea), L. Insigne (Napoli), Cazorla (Arsenal), Džeko (Roma), Donnarumma (Milan)
6,42 Sterling (Man City), Totti (Roma)
6,41 Kovačić (Real Madrid), Chiellini (Juventus)
6,40 Willian (Chelsea)
6,39 Coutinho (Liverpool)
6,36 Higuaín, Mandžukić (Juventus), Fàbregas, Pedro (Chelsea), Agüero (Man City), Firmino (Liverpool)
6,35 Y. Touré (Man City)
6,34 David Luíz (Chelsea), K. Walker (Tottenham), Rugani (Juventus)
6,33 Kroos (Real Madrid), Gündogan (Man City), Nainggolan (Roma), Suso (Milan)
6,32 Modric (Real Madrid)
6,31 Cristiano Ronaldo, Asensio (Real Madrid), Hamsik (Napoli), Wanyama (Tottenham), Milner (Liverpool)
6,30 Suárez (Barcelona), Mignolet (Liverpool)
6,29 Javi Martínez (Bayern)
6,28 Courtois (Chelsea)
6,27 Oblak (Atlético)
6,26 Nolito (Man City), Alderweireld (Tottenham)
6,25 Griezmann (Atlético), Bailly (Man United), Buffon, Marchisio (Juventus)
6,24 Pjanic (Juventus), Wijnaldum (Liverpool)
6,23 Icardi (Inter), Son (Tottenham), Szczesny (Roma)
6,22 Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid), Vertonghen (Tottenham), Perotti (Roma)
6,21 Matić (Chelsea), Iniesta (Barcelona), Kane (Tottenham), Lapadula (Milan)
6,20 Iheanacho (Man City), Alex Sandro (Juventus)
Using your logic, those ratings should clear up the best player in Europe, Non? My logic is, those ratings do not related to the performances I saw from the good old eye test. Now obviously people have good games, average games and shyt games, laws of averages.
Now Real won La LIga last season and their best rated player from that list is Kovacic. A player who started 19 games and came on for another 8 off the bench, so he made 27 league appearances and scored 1 goal. So does that make Kovacic better than C dot, Asensio, Isco, Kroos, Modric, Nevas, Ramos, Casemiro Varane ,etc. Bu-bu-but thats Real Madrid.
Don't like the Real answer
Lets take Rugani of Juventus, don't know who he is. In 2016/2017 he was Juventus 5th choice CB. Now from the ratings, it makes him the 2nd best Juventus CB, which if you saw Juventus last season, know that isnt true. He played 15 times last season, started 11 and came off the bench for another 4 games.
Bu-bu-bu-but, I wasn't talking about now.
Lets go to Serie A 00/01
Football Ratings: Average ratings Serie A 2000-01
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6,73 Nedved (Lazio)
6,70 Signori (Bologna)
6,67 Rui Costa (Fiorentina)
6,62 R. Baggio (Brescia)
6,59 Chiesa (Fiorentina)
6,57 Tommasi (Roma)
6,55 Totti (Roma)
6,52 Nesta (Lazio), Montella (Roma)
6,50 Cafú (Roma)
6,49 Buffon (Parma)
6,45 Zidane & Tacchinardi (Juventus), Samuel (Roma)
6,43 S. Fiore (Udinese)
6,39 Toni (Vicenza)
6,38 Poborský (Lazio), Morfeo (Atalanta), Liverani (Perugia)
6,37 Thuram (Parma)
6,35 Maldini (Milan), Materazzi (Perugia), Giannichedda (Udinese)
6,33 Verón (Lazio), Carrera (Atalanta), Pecchia (Napoli)
6,32 Chimenti (Lecce), Di Vaio (Parma)
6,31 Peruzzi (Lazio), Davids (Juventus), Pelizzoli (Atalanta)
6,30 C. Doni (Atalanta), F. Cannavaro (Parma), G. Tedesco (Perugia), Zago (Roma).
This season Roma won the league, And the highest rated player was Tommasi and then Totti.
Do you know who is missing from that list. Only 3 out of the 4 people to score 20 or more goals that season, you know goalscoring the things that helps you win matches. So the 1st, 2nd and 4th leading scorers in Serie A that season, werent good enough to make the list. You want to know their names, sure thing, only Crespo, Shevchenko & some little known Argentine striker what was his name again, ermm Gab, ermm Bati ermm its on the tip of my tongue, help me out. Any how, going off your ratings narrative, what you saying is that Roma would of won the league without said Argentine's production, that his 20 goals in 28 games didn't matter in the grand scheme of things all because he didnt make some ratings. Even tho Roma hadnt won the league in 16 season before and havent won the league in the 16 seasons since.
but did he carry mediocre players to win, that's the myth that people keeps on using. i just show that his teammates are not 'MEDIOCRE"
DBScalcio ratings he was tide 1st with Ferrara, other 4th then another one 6th. yeah he totally carried a mediocre team to win Scudetto. in his best season with Napoli i think 84-85 they're mid table team. nobody denying that he's the best player in his team maybe the world at that time but is he consistent tru out the season ?
here we are pretending we watch most of those Serie A games at that time, meanwhile those newspapers giving every player on the pitch ratings for every match they played i bet they don't use eyes. now did he carried mediocre players ?
He took a non successful Southern Italian team, with only 2 major trophies before his arrival and left them with their 1st ever league title (won 2, while he was there) and 1st ever european title (Uefa Cup / europa league). He basically doubled Napoli's honours in 7 seasons at the club.
National titles
European titles
Winners (1): 1988–89
The best 2 players Maradona played with when he was Napoli were Alemao & Careca and he won a titles, before they even came to the club.
Rugani of Juventus, he was Juventus 5th choice CB. Now from the ratings, it makes him the 2nd best Juventus CB, which if you saw Juventus last season, know that isnt true. He played 15 times last season, started 11 and came off the bench for another 4 games.
Minus the attack (trash link up) current Argentina is mediocre at best. Messi was dribbling and throwing passes again yesterday but his teammates were playing like damn amateurs. Just watch this clip and notice how many times he set up play vs Venezuela and his teammates either had a piss poor first touch or botched a chance
Wtf people want him to do more??
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