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This Anelka thing is getting massive play in the media :lupe: Nasri might be next :lupe:
Sakho already addressed it saying that he didn't even know that was a political gesture. But I honestly think for of them, it's just like the v sign, the middle finger, or the duck face. Just something for the pic.

Here's TP doing it with Dieudonné :
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Here's Diaw still with comedian Dieudonné :
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First time the quenelle sign was really visible was on that "poster" of Dieudonné for European election campaign he was running for if I recall right. It translates into "For a Europe freed from censorship, communitarianism, speculators and NATO. Anti-zionist list.
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So the gesture is definitely political for some, but for others it's just a simple sign. The French government making a big fuzz out of this because Dieudonné is targeted by french justice because of some shock jokes or shock phrases he's used to say. And because most of them were talking about Israel and/or Jews he's sued for incitement to racial hatred. So that gesture being heavily linked to his image, and therefore to his political views, and therefore to his judicial problems, that gesture is kind of blurry, sense wise, to many.

:lupe: Anelka the Balo before Balo
I was about to say that Anelka was the Pre-Balo version of the talented cat who really can't give too much shyt about football. :lolbron:
But Best did it before them didn't he ?
 

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Sakho already addressed it saying that he didn't even know that was a political gesture. But I honestly think for of them, it's just like the v sign, the middle finger, or the duck face. Just something for the pic.

Here's TP doing it with Dieudonné :
552474-parker2.jpg


Here's Diaw still with comedian Dieudonné :
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First time the quenelle sign was really visible was on that "poster" of Dieudonné for European election campaign he was running for if I recall right. It translates into "For a Europe freed from censorship, communitarianism, speculators and NATO. Anti-zionist list.
84944824c25e1bcfe40195407f4873164a200f045a7fb.png


So the gesture is definitely political for some, but for others it's just a simple sign. The French government making a big fuzz out of this because Dieudonné is targeted by french justice because of some shock jokes or shock phrases he's used to say. And because most of them were talking about Israel and/or Jews he's sued for incitement to racial hatred. So that gesture being heavily linked to his image, and therefore to his political views, and therefore to his judicial problems, that gesture is kind of blurry, sense wise, to many.


I was about to say that Anelka was the Pre-Balo version of the talented cat who really can't give too much shyt about football. :lolbron:
But Best did it before them didn't he ?
Dudnt best retire from man utd just to be a general celeb, fukk miss worlds and drink all day.

Don't forget cantona retiring from MU at the top of his game to be an actor :heh:
 

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Nicolas Anelka faces a potential minimum five-match ban for his controversial quenelle gesture, made during West Bromwich Albion's 3-3 draw with West Ham on Saturday and which has subsequently beendescribed as "disgusting" by France's minister for sport, Valérie Fourneyron.

The striker has been at the centre of a storm since he was spotted doing the quenelle, described by some as a "reverse Nazi salute", while celebrating the first of his two goals for West Brom at Upton Park. The Football Association has confirmed it is investigating the matter alongside Kick It Out and it is possible that under anti-discriminatory rules introduced by the governing body in May, Anelka could be banned for five matches.

That sanction could be extended, however, depending on "aggravating" factors and there remains the possibility of Uefa getting involved and handing Anelka a lengthy ban itself under Article 14 of their own disciplinary regulations. Those state that "any person who insults the human dignity of a person or group of persons … on the grounds of skin colour, race, religion or ethnic origin, incurs a suspension lasting at least 10 matches." That, however, would only kick in should Anelka join a club playing in Uefa competitions.

Anelka has confirmed that by placing his left arm across his chest while keeping his right arm pointed downwards, he was indeed recreating thequenelle, but insisted on Twitter that it was a "special dedication to my comedian friend Dieudonné."

Dieudonné M'Bala M'Bala, however, is well known in France for maintaining antisemitic views and for having come up with the quenelle, which he first used in 2009 while standing in the European elections for an anti-Zionist party. The 47-year-old has insisted that the gesture is meant as an anti-establishment protest and is not directed specifically at the Jewish community, but it has been described as "the sodomisation of victims of the Holocaust" by Alain Jakubowicz, the president of the French league against racism and antisemitism. Dieudonné has reportedly started legal proceedings against Jakubowicz for libel.

France's interior minister, Manuel Valls, is now considering whether to ban all public appearances by Dieudonné, who has been fined a number of times for hate speech, with the controversy surrounding Anelka's celebration hardly likely to help the so-called comedian's cause.

"Anelka's gesture is a shocking, disgusting provocation," said Fourneyron. "There is no place for antisemitism and incitement to hatred on the football pitch."

Anelka, who converted to Islam in 2004, has received the support of his club, with the West Brom caretaker manager, Keith Downing, describing the controversy surrounding his celebration as "rubbish" in the aftermath of Saturday's fixture. "I'm aware of it but it is dedicated to a French comedian he [Anelka] knows well," said Downing.

The quenelle outrage overshadowed an excellent display by Anelka at the weekend, when the 34-year-old scored his first goals for West Brom since joining the club on a free transfer in the summer. A lengthy-ban could ultimately signal the end of what has been a consistently controversial career, which included his expulsion from the 2010 France World Cup squad in South Africa for verbally attacking the then head coach Raymond Domenech.

Anelka is not the first footballer who has been photographed doing thequenelle, with Manchester City's Samir Nasri and Liverpool's Mamadou Sakho having also performed the gesture alongside Dieudonné. Sakho later insisted that he did not know what it meant. "I was tricked," said the defender.

:leon:
 

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Sakho already addressed it saying that he didn't even know that was a political gesture. But I honestly think for of them, it's just like the v sign, the middle finger, or the duck face. Just something for the pic.

Here's TP doing it with Dieudonné :
552474-parker2.jpg


Here's Diaw still with comedian Dieudonné :
556542_10151076658449006_1619811167_n.jpg


First time the quenelle sign was really visible was on that "poster" of Dieudonné for European election campaign he was running for if I recall right. It translates into "For a Europe freed from censorship, communitarianism, speculators and NATO. Anti-zionist list.
84944824c25e1bcfe40195407f4873164a200f045a7fb.png


So the gesture is definitely political for some, but for others it's just a simple sign. The French government making a big fuzz out of this because Dieudonné is targeted by french justice because of some shock jokes or shock phrases he's used to say. And because most of them were talking about Israel and/or Jews he's sued for incitement to racial hatred. So that gesture being heavily linked to his image, and therefore to his political views, and therefore to his judicial problems, that gesture is kind of blurry, sense wise, to many.


I was about to say that Anelka was the Pre-Balo version of the talented cat who really can't give too much shyt about football. :lolbron:
But Best did it before them didn't he ?
Seems like every non-white athlete in France has done it :leon:
 

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Kids I do t know calling me names over xbox live is a problem, I played one game and someone text me "lagger noob" :heh:

Must be cos of the streaming arsenal game.
 
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