Essential The Official Football (Soccer) Thread - We are SO back, the Premier League returns!

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Not to ruin the fun in here, but seriously what about the rest of LA Liga tho? Real Betis, Rayo, Las Palmas, Celta Vigo, etc. And any mid and lower table teams all across Europe. How heathly are theses leagues from top to bottom? It's got to be insane that theses type of clubs will never win anything nor have a chance to win anything. I'm positive we'll never see a Leicester City run ever again in our lifetimes. Not going to bring up a salary cap and whatnot, but what's the future for football in Europe outside of the big 8-9 clubs that hoard all the stars and win all the titles? Also imo, all that pro/rel talk is getting to be meaningless in the grand scheme of things.

Real and Barca haven't cared about La Liga when they signed their own TV deals nearly 20 years ago. Atletico were lucky enough that their gamble to sign big and sell even bigger (still had debt tho) paid off to win the title in 2014 and then have Carlos Slim invest into the club about a year later.
 

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Not to ruin the fun in here, but seriously what about the rest of LA Liga tho? .
Gonna be a while before we see the likes of Valencia, Depor etc challenging for the league again.

Valencia was the best primed to challenge for the league after Atletico but Peter Lim messed em up.

La Liga needs a better revenue allocation/sharing model for sure.

you just did.

leverkusen.

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I wouldn’t say Leverkusen are mid to lower table. They usually are a consistent top 6 club
 

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Not to ruin the fun in here, but seriously what about the rest of LA Liga tho? Real Betis, Rayo, Las Palmas, Celta Vigo, etc. And any mid and lower table teams all across Europe. How heathly are theses leagues from top to bottom? It's got to be insane that theses type of clubs will never win anything nor have a chance to win anything. I'm positive we'll never see a Leicester City run ever again in our lifetimes. Not going to bring up a salary cap and whatnot, but what's the future for football in Europe outside of the big 8-9 clubs that hoard all the stars and win all the titles? Also imo, all that pro/rel talk is getting to be meaningless in the grand scheme of things.

Those at the top have always sought to protect their position. That TV deal la liga has, and the salary rules make it very difficult for the other 18 teams to mount a sustained challenge. Girona had a good year but they ultimately didn't have enough towards the end of the season, and they were helped alot by CFG players they got for cheap/loan.

And that Leicester City run wasn't some rags to riches story, they invested above what the premier league elite(ie United and Liverpool) said they could invest and they are still in FFP/PSR problems to this day.

The only hope for midtable abd lower teams to win a league title is to have a really good academy class and for them all to mature at the same time before the elites buy them all.
 

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Gonna be a while before we see the likes of Valencia, Depor etc challenging for the league again.

Valencia was the best primed to challenge for the league after Atletico but Peter Lim messed em up.

La Liga needs a better revenue allocation/sharing model for sure.



I wouldn’t say Leverkusen are mid to lower table. They usually are a consistent top 6 club

And Leverkusen had good luck in selling Diaby and Bailey to villa for almost 100m combined and got some good players for reasonable fees, Xhaka, Grimaldo etc.

Heard they just lost Tah to the bundesliga owners tho, interesting to see how they replace.
 

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Real and Barca haven't cared about La Liga when they signed their own TV deals nearly 20 years ago. Atletico were lucky enough that their gamble to sign big and sell even bigger (still had debt tho) paid off to win the title in 2014 and then have Carlos Slim invest into the club about a year later.
They have their own TV deals :picard:





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They have their own TV deals :picard:





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And Leverkusen had good luck in selling Diaby and Bailey to villa for almost 100m combined and got some good players for reasonable fees, Xhaka, Grimaldo etc.

Heard they just lost Tah to the bundesliga owners tho, interesting to see how they replace.

Yep. They sold well and got some very good deals in the transfer market plus developed their current players.

Grimaldo - Free
Boniface - €21M
Xhaka - €15M
Stanisic - Loan
Hofmann - €10M

For the smaller clubs in La Liga, they have to follow that same model of finding good gems and developing them up to the point that the squad can challenge for a title. Problem is once they’re successful they get pulled apart.
 

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the bundesliga is amall so mid table is 7-12. and leverkusen have won next to nothing. ever.

Haven’t won much but still consistently one of the better sides at least in the 2000s from what I remember. Usually Top 4-6.

Kinda like Spurs to a degree.
 

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Man City about to shake down the EPL

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Manchester City launch legal action against the Premier League over its financial rules in move which could help club defend their 115 alleged breaches of top flight regulations​

  • Manchester City have launched 'unprecedented legal action' against the league
  • The champions are contesting the league's Associated Party Transaction rules
Manchester City have declared war on the Premier League - suing the competition over new financial rules in an unprecedented move that has sent shockwaves through football and split some of the game’s most powerful clubs.

Outraged bosses at the Etihad Stadium have filed a 165-page legal document claiming they are the victims of ‘discrimination’ and that regulations approved by rivals they feel are aimed at curtailing their success are the ‘tyranny of the majority’.

A two-week private hearing starts on Monday and its verdict could have wide-ranging ramifications on the 115 charges aimed by the Premier League at City for alleged breaches of its rules on accounting. That hearing is set for November and could see huge fines and even relegation should Pep Guardiola’s four-in-a-row champions be found guilty.

 
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